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Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors
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+From: Michael Folkson <michaelfolkson@gmail.com>
+Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:21:16 +0100
+Message-ID: <CAFvNmHSH4aPvP88wJHg4uwSmRZS7iJxVaOYhamz5L4yPx7GsYg@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors
+To: Ava Chow <lists@achow101.com>
+Cc: Steve Lee <steven.j.lee@gmail.com>, bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
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+Ava
+
+> Obviously a revert war would be a problem, but I don't think it would
+come down to that, and in that case, participants in that should be
+promptly removed.
+
+It is inevitable there will be a "revert war" unless they all have to
+agree on merge decisions or communicate prior to merging. It is just a
+matter of time. Does for example Ordinal Numbers get a BIP number? I
+suspect all the new BIP editors won't agree on that.
+
+Who is to blame in a "revert war" if each editor is free to merge
+whatever pull request they like? The editor who merged it? Why should
+they be removed as an editor for merging a pull request when they find
+out later a different editor disagreed with that merge decision and
+wants to revert the merge?
+
+I'm even more concerned about future soft fork activation attempts.
+These don't necessarily need to be attempted via a Bitcoin Core merged
+pull request hence the BIPs repo could be a key source of information
+and guidance on this.
+
+> BIPs is also a fairly low risk repo as it's just documentation.
+
+Lower risk than say the Bitcoin Core repo sure but just throwing a
+large number of new editors at it makes it seem like you don't care
+what happens there.
+
+I've seen Wladimir is contributing again to Core. Is there a plan to
+give him commit access again? I'd be more comfortable with him
+overseeing things in the various repos under the Bitcoin Core
+(/bitcoin) GitHub org as it sounds like you don't really care if the
+BIPs repo degenerates into a free for all.
+
+Thanks
+Michael
+
+On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 10:15=E2=80=AFPM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development
+Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com> wrote:
+>
+> On 04/20/2024 04:46 PM, Steve Lee wrote:
+> > Wasn't there evidence provided that Kanzure does not want this
+> > responsibility without being paid?
+>
+> I am not aware of that, and it hasn't come up when I've talked to him
+> about being a BIPs editor.
+>
+> > I'm confused by this process that we don't even ask the people if they
+> > want the responsibility? I think only Laolu has chimed in to commit to =
+it?
+>
+> Personally, I've spoken to all 5 privately and they've all confirmed to
+> me that they are willing to be BIPs editors. Jonatack[1] and Murch[2]
+> have also replied to this thread about this.
+>
+> Ava
+>
+> [1]:
+> https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/83b69000-ca1e-4a58-90b5-114cb09ac0bbn@go=
+oglegroups.com/
+> [2]:
+> https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e778@mur=
+ch.one/
+>
+> >
+> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:30=E2=80=AFPM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Develop=
+ment
+> > Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
+> > <mailto:bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
+> >
+> > Since we're now past the deadline of April 19th, I'd like to inform
+> > everyone of what will happen on Monday.
+> >
+> > There has not been any actual objections to the nominees nor have t=
+here
+> > been any suggestions on choosing a subset of them since my last ema=
+il.
+> > As such, there is rough consensus on adding Kanzure, Murch, Jonatac=
+k,
+> > Ruben, and Roasbeef as BIP editors, and they will be added on Monda=
+y
+> > April 22nd.
+> >
+> > Ava
+> >
+> > On 04/16/2024 01:08 PM, 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing =
+List
+> > wrote:
+> > > While I don't disagree that 5 or 6 people seems like a lot to ad=
+d at
+> > > once, it's not clear to me how we should decide which subset of =
+the
+> > > nominees should be added. As it is now, I have only seen an actu=
+al
+> > > objection to Kanzure and Ruben from /dev/fd0, and no explicit
+> > objections
+> > > to anyone else. It seems like the vast majority of people don't =
+share
+> > > their concerns either as both Kanzure and Ruben continue to be
+> > endorsed
+> > > by many others.
+> > >
+> > > Looking at the endorsements each candidate has received, the cur=
+rent
+> > > counts are:
+> > > * Kanzure - 17 for, 1 against
+> > > * Murch - 13 for
+> > > * Jonatack - 13 for
+> > > * Ruben - 12 for, 1 against
+> > > * Roasbeef - 9 for
+> > > * Michael Folkson - none
+> > >
+> > > However, I don't want this process to become a popularity contes=
+t and
+> > > require some kind of formal voting. Rather I'd prefer that this
+> > process
+> > > be something more like how Bitcoin Core maintainers are added - =
+by
+> > > achieving rough consensus. Without any explicit objections to an=
+y of
+> > > these candidates, I'm inclined to move forward with adding the 5=
+ who
+> > > have received endorsements. Having to pick "winners" from this l=
+ist
+> > > seems like a quick way to stir up drama that I don't think anyon=
+e
+> > really
+> > > wants to deal with.
+> > >
+> > > I do want to note that neither Kanzure, Ruben, nor Roasbeef have
+> > posted
+> > > on this list that they are willing to be BIP editors. I have
+> > reached out
+> > > to all 3 of them privately, and received responses from Kanzure =
+and
+> > > Ruben that indicate that they probably are willing, but public
+> > > confirmation from them on this list would also be nice. I have n=
+ot
+> > > received a response from Roasbeef.
+> > >
+> > > Ava
+> > >
+> > > On 04/11/2024 10:22 AM, Sergi Delgado Segura wrote:
+> > >> > I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this
+> > task, so
+> > >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the =
+group
+> > >> majority.
+> > >>
+> > >> I disagree with that, the more doesn't really the better here.
+> > Having
+> > >> too many editors may result in a tragedy of the commons, in
+> > which people
+> > >> just commit to the job because many others do, and they do not
+> > end up
+> > >> doing as much because they expect others to do the it. This doe=
+s not
+> > >> only make the process look bad but may burnout the ones that en=
+d up
+> > >> doing the job, given their time commitment ends up being too fa=
+r
+> > from
+> > >> their expectations.
+> > >>
+> > >> I think being more moderate with the amount of people is better=
+, and
+> > >> gives us leeway in case the workload ends up being excessive an=
+d
+> > we need
+> > >> to add more people (plus discourage people from joining and
+> > slacking off).
+> > >>
+> > >> I think 3 more people should be a good number to start from.
+> > >> I'd personally vouch for Murch, Kanzure, and Ruben based on
+> > their track
+> > >> record in the space
+> > >>
+> > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:30=E2=80=AFPM nvk <rdlfnvk@gmail.com
+> > <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com>
+> > >> <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com>>> wrote:
+> > >>
+> > >> +1 for
+> > >> Kanzure
+> > >> RubenSomsen
+> > >> Seccour
+> > >> Jon Atack
+> > >> Roasbeef
+> > >>
+> > >> I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this task, =
+so
+> > >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the =
+group
+> > >> majority.
+> > >>
+> > >> BIPs were intended as a means to collect ideas, not enforce ide=
+as.
+> > >>
+> > >> I'd like to return to that.
+> > >>
+> > >> - NVK (temp gmail account)
+> > >>
+> > >> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:16:54=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4 David=
+ A.
+> > Harding wrote:
+> > >>
+> > >> On 2024-03-28 10:04, Matt Corallo wrote:
+> > >> > Please provide justification rather than simply
+> > saying "I
+> > >> like Bob!".
+> > >>
+> > >> Using only comments from the mailing list, the
+> > following appears
+> > >> to be
+> > >> the candidate list along with the current support.
+> > Asterisks denote
+> > >> candidates who indicated their willingness to accept
+> > the role.
+> > >>
+> > >> - Bryan "Kanzure" Bishop, recommended by Ava Chow[1], =
+Chris
+> > >> Stewart[3],
+> > >> Michael Folkson[6], Peter Todd[9], Matt Corallo[10],
+> > Brandon
+> > >> Black[11],
+> > >> Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine Poinsot[15], Joh=
+n
+> > >> Carvalho[16]
+> > >>
+> > >> - Ruben Somsen, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris
+> > Stewart[3],
+> > >> Michael
+> > >> Folkson[6], Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine
+> > Poinsot[15], John
+> > >> Carvalho[16]
+> > >>
+> > >> - Jon Atack*, recommended by Luke Dashjr[2], Chris
+> > Stewart[3],
+> > >> /dev/fd0[5][7],
+> > >> Brandon Black[11], Antoine Riard[12], Ava Chow[14], Jo=
+hn
+> > >> Carvalho[16]
+> > >>
+> > >> - Olaoluwa "Roasbeef" Osuntokun, recommended by Chris
+> > >> Stewart[3], John
+> > >> C. Vernaleo[4], /dev/fd0[5][7], Keagan McClelland[8],
+> > Antoine
+> > >> Riard[12], Ava Chow[14]
+> > >>
+> > >> - Mark "Murch" Erhardt*, recommended by Michael
+> > Folkson[6], Keagan
+> > >> McClelland[8], Matt Corallo[10], Brandon Black[11], An=
+toine
+> > >> Riard[12],
+> > >> Ava Chow[14]
+> > >>
+> > >> - Michael Folkson*
+> > >>
+> > >> Note: Luke Dashjr proposed[17] Seccour and Greg Tonosk=
+i for
+> > >> "non-dev
+> > >> triaging", Tonoski proposed himself[18] for "BIP
+> > editor", and
+> > >> Antoine
+> > >> Riard[12] proposed Seccour for "decentralized PM".
+> > >>
+> > >> I searched the BIPs repo by commenter to see if any of
+> > the above
+> > >> candidates had been especially active there, which is
+> > listed
+> > >> below as:
+> > >> total PRs they commented on (number still open/number
+> > closed).
+> > >>
+> > >> - 21 (1/20) commenter:kanzure
+> > >> - 3 (2/1) commenter:rubensomsen
+> > >> - 15 (0/15) commenter:jonatack
+> > >> - 18 (2/16) commenter:roasbeef
+> > >> - 10 (6/4) commenter:Murchandamus
+> > >> - 57 (6/51) commenter:michaelfolkson
+> > >>
+> > >> I'll also note that Osuntokun is the only member of th=
+e
+> > set to
+> > >> have a
+> > >> merged BIP that they co-authored, although I believe
+> > there are
+> > >> far-along
+> > >> draft BIPs for both Murch (terminology) and Somsen (Si=
+lent
+> > >> Payments). I
+> > >> don't think this should be a requirement, but I do thi=
+nk it
+> > >> demonstrates
+> > >> familiarity with the process.
+> > >>
+> > >> Speaking only for myself, I think all of the candidate=
+s
+> > above with
+> > >> multiple recommendations from other community
+> > participants are
+> > >> fully
+> > >> qualified for the role, so I'll only provide a detaile=
+d
+> > >> justification
+> > >> for the person who would be my first pick: Murch is no=
+t
+> > only a
+> > >> longstanding and broadly liked Bitcoin contributor, bu=
+t
+> > (as Corallo
+> > >> mentioned) he has worked on standardizing terminology
+> > through a
+> > >> draft
+> > >> BIP. In addition, he provided an extremely detailed
+> > review of
+> > >> all 300
+> > >> pages of a draft of Mastering Bitcoin (3rd edition) an=
+d has
+> > >> reviewed
+> > >> drafts of over 200 weekly Optech newsletters, in both =
+cases
+> > >> significantly improving the accuracy and
+> > comprehensibility of the
+> > >> documentation. To me, that seems very similar to the
+> > work we'd
+> > >> ask him
+> > >> to perform as a BIPs editor and it's something that
+> > he's already
+> > >> doing,
+> > >> so I think there's an excellent fit of person to role.
+> > >>
+> > >> -Dave
+> > >>
+> > >> [1]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8...@achow101.com=
+/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8...@achow101.co=
+m/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d97927551e@=
+achow101.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d=
+97927551e@achow101.com/>>
+> > >> [2]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106...@dashjr.org/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106...@dashjr.org/=
+>
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a6=
+2a3@dashjr.org/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c=
+1ff8f8a62a3@dashjr.org/>>
+> > >> [3]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a...@googlegroups=
+.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a...@googlegroups.=
+com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a-8fd6-cddc46f129a=
+2n@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a-8=
+fd6-cddc46f129a2n@googlegroups.com/>>
+> > >> [4]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333...@netpurgatory=
+.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333...@netpurgatory.=
+com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333-fd28-bdd55899b71=
+3@netpurgatory.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333-fd=
+28-bdd55899b713@netpurgatory.com/>>
+> > >> [5]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36...@googlegroups=
+.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36...@googlegroups.=
+com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-be81-7c3719157fa=
+bn@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-b=
+e81-7c3719157fabn@googlegroups.com/>>
+> > >> [6]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2...@googlegroups=
+.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2...@googlegroups.=
+com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2-a787-639a3564d00=
+6n@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2-a=
+787-639a3564d006n@googlegroups.com/>>
+> > >> [7]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869...@googlegroups=
+.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869...@googlegroups.=
+com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869-a3b1-55d346efbea=
+1n@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869-a=
+3b1-55d346efbea1n@googlegroups.com/>>
+> > >> [8]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3Dwruqg=
+LEazRA5...@mail.gmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd=
+7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA5...@mail.gmail.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitc=
+oindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA5nVw9siYCPj4A@mail.gmail.com=
+/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazR=
+A5nVw9siYCPj4A@mail.gmail.com/>>
+> > >> [9]
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbf...@petertodd.org/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbf...@petertodd.org/>
+> > >>
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbfrr4wZG7k@petertodd.org/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbfrr4wZG7k@petertodd.org/>>
+> > >> [10]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5...@mattcorallo.=
+com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5...@mattcorallo.co=
+m/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5-86e2-7ba0336a9bf2@=
+mattcorallo.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5-86e2-=
+7ba0336a9bf2@mattcorallo.com/>>
+> > >> [11]
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/>
+> > >>
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/>>
+> > >> [12]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E...@mail.=
+gmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E...@m=
+ail.gmail.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E=
+KMCP5oEbHSKSXpq0VKVBhJLhrw@mail.gmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoinde=
+v/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+EKMCP5oEbHSKSXpq0VKVBhJLhrw@mail.gmail.com/>>
+> > >> [13]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a...@murch.one/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a...@murch.one/>
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e=
+778@murch.one/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32=
+bd88d5e778@murch.one/>>
+> > >> [14]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f...@achow101.com=
+/
+> > <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f...@achow101.co=
+m/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f-866d-c555b80b0644@=
+achow101.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f-866d-c55=
+5b80b0644@achow101.com/>>
+> > >> [15]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSB=
+Xsuizh7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=
+=3D@protonmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVB=
+d0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gw=
+U1c2jS4xojo=3D@protonmail.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU=
+3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDA=
+pPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=3D@protonmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoinde=
+v/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK=
+-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=3D@protonmail.com/>>
+> > >> [16]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552...@googlegroups=
+.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552...@googlegroups.=
+com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552-88ca-11b9ed34066=
+1n@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552-8=
+8ca-11b9ed340661n@googlegroups.com/>>
+> > >> [17]
+> > >>
+> > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CAMHHROw9mZJRnTbUo76PdqwJU=3D=3DYJ=
+Mvd9Qrst+...@mail.gmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CAMHHROw9mZJ=
+RnTbUo76PdqwJU=3D=3DYJMvd9Qrst+...@mail.gmail.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/=
+bitcoindev/CAMHHROw9mZJRnTbUo76PdqwJU=3D=3DYJMvd9Qrst+nmyypaedYZgg@mail.gma=
+il.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CAMHHROw9mZJRnTbUo76PdqwJU=3D=3DY=
+JMvd9Qrst+nmyypaedYZgg@mail.gmail.com/>>
+> > >>
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+> > >>
+> > >>
+> > >>
+> > >> --
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