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| author | Cameron Garnham <da2ce7@gmail.com> | 2012-01-17 13:35:00 +1100 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2012-01-17 02:35:00 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout
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[124.170.5.29]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g13sm35240995ank.21.2012.01.16.18.34.50 + (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:34:53 -0800 (PST) +Message-ID: <4F14DE54.9010804@gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:35:00 +1100 +From: Cameron Garnham <da2ce7@gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; + rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +References: <1326665394.7032.YahooMailNeo@web121002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> + <CA+8xBpfWvLGtF3aP10xjTs-wyD1ia=iKLh3b=B+LqQjpRV5PVQ@mail.gmail.com> + <1326760227.63298.YahooMailNeo@web121006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> + <4F14C4EF.5070709@gmail.com> + <CAJna-HjMSvnJxXnnvC_mGEsHNX=7yaDU3W22P8LwbbbuX2dEvQ@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <CAJna-HjMSvnJxXnnvC_mGEsHNX=7yaDU3W22P8LwbbbuX2dEvQ@mail.gmail.com> +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="------------030805010805080400050002" +X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) +X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. + See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. + -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for + sender-domain + 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider + (da2ce7[at]gmail.com) + -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record + 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in + digit (da2ce7[at]gmail.com) + 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message + -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from + author's domain + 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, + not necessarily valid + -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature +X-Headers-End: 1Rmyt1-0005yf-NO +Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 +Precedence: list +List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:35:01 -0000 + +This is a multi-part message in MIME format. +--------------030805010805080400050002 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit + +I think that bitcoin.org should remain apolitical. However maybe it +would be good if the blackout to take effect on bitcointalk.org if +theymos and Sirius believes it is appropriate. + +Bitcoin.org should provide bitcoin. + + + + +On 17/01/2012 11:59 AM, slush wrote: +> > I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands. +> +> I agree on this. Please don't turn Bitcoin project/homepage into some +> political agitation. Not everybody care about political attitude of +> main project developers. +> +> slush +> +> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com +> <mailto:etotheipi@gmail.com>> wrote: +> +> You guys are representing both extremes of the issue. In response +> to Jeff and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is /just any other +> poltical issue/. It strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin is +> about. Barring Bitcoin-specific legislation, I don't see how any +> legislation could be more relevant to Bitcoin and the community +> around it. +> +> On the other hand, Bitcoin is still a non-entity, and shouldn't +> get in the business of making statements. A central voice for +> Bitcoin gives the impression that it is actually centralized, and +> one that has opinions. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if some, +> heavily-invested Bitcoin users were of the opinion that +> SOPA/PIPA/whatever could be a huge profit for themselves: once +> SOPA kicks in and businesses around the world start getting cut +> off for legit or illegitimate purposes, a lot of them could +> potentially switch to Bitcoin to keep their business going. That +> could be a huge boon for Bitcoin. You may not agree it's worth +> the tradeoff, but people are selfish and may not actually +> understand or even care about SOPA legislation itself. +> +> I think it's /not inappropriate/ for something to be mentioned on +> the website about Bitcoin's philosophy being threatened by SOPA, +> but I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political +> stands. Users could be reminded that SOPA affects yet another +> thing they care about, but it might be better to avoid it +> altogether. If any response is made, it should be a very light one. +> +> -Alan +> +> +> +> On 01/16/2012 07:30 PM, Amir Taaki wrote: +>> Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly. +>> +>> Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin ever does- you've read Satoshi's politically charged whitepaper or seen the genesis block quote. +>> +>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action +>> +>> The Wikipedia community decided on a full and global blackout. Bitcoin should do the same in unison with the rest of the web- sites like Reddit, 4chan and Wikipedia. +>> +>> It's funny / almost comical how you consign this to being just another issue or case of moral alarm. Sad. +>> +>> +>> +>> ----- Original Message ----- +>> From: Jeff Garzik<jgarzik@exmulti.com> <mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com> +>> To: Amir Taaki<zgenjix@yahoo.com> <mailto:zgenjix@yahoo.com> +>> Cc:"bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:37 PM +>> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development]bitcoin.org <http://bitcoin.org> SOPA/PIPA blackout +>> +>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Amir Taaki<zgenjix@yahoo.com> <mailto:zgenjix@yahoo.com> wrote: +>>> How is this not the most important world issue right now? +>>> +>>> EVERYTHING is under threat. Go nuclear to show our nerd-rage. +>>> +>>> Everybody blank your personal sites too. Americans, take to the streets. World, go scream at the US embassy. +>> There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage. I would +>> rather thatbitcoin.org <http://bitcoin.org> stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate +>> this in the long run. +>> +> +> +> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +> Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! +> The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft +> developers +> is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, +> MVC3, +> Metro Style Apps, more. 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{mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; + mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; + mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; + mso-style-noshow:yes; + mso-style-priority:99; + mso-style-parent:""; + mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; + mso-para-margin-top:0cm; + mso-para-margin-right:0cm; + mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; + mso-para-margin-left:0cm; + line-height:115%; + mso-pagination:widow-orphan; + font-size:11.0pt; + font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; + mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; + mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; + mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; + mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; + mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; + mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; + mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} +</style> +<![endif]--> + <p class="MsoNormal">I think that bitcoin.org should remain + apolitical. + However maybe it would be good if the blackout to take effect on + bitcointalk.org + if theymos and Sirius believes it is appropriate.<o:p></o:p><br> + </p> + <p class="MsoNormal">Bitcoin.org should provide bitcoin.<br> + </p> + <br> + <br> + <br> + On 17/01/2012 11:59 AM, slush wrote: + <blockquote +cite="mid:CAJna-HjMSvnJxXnnvC_mGEsHNX=7yaDU3W22P8LwbbbuX2dEvQ@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite">> I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold + political stands. + <div><br> + </div> + <div>I agree on this. Please don't turn Bitcoin project/homepage + into some political agitation. Not everybody care about + political attitude of main project developers.</div> + <div><br> + </div> + <div>slush<br> + <br> + <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Alan + Reiner <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" + href="mailto:etotheipi@gmail.com">etotheipi@gmail.com</a>></span> + wrote:<br> + <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 + .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> + <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> You guys are + representing both extremes of the issue. In response to + Jeff and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is <i>just any + other poltical issue</i>. It strikes at the heart of + everything Bitcoin is about. Barring Bitcoin-specific + legislation, I don't see how any legislation could be more + relevant to Bitcoin and the community around it.<br> + <br> + On the other hand, Bitcoin is still a non-entity, and + shouldn't get in the business of making statements. A + central voice for Bitcoin gives the impression that it is + actually centralized, and one that has opinions. Plus I + wouldn't be surprised if some, heavily-invested Bitcoin + users were of the opinion that SOPA/PIPA/whatever could be + a huge profit for themselves: once SOPA kicks in and + businesses around the world start getting cut off for + legit or illegitimate purposes, a lot of them could + potentially switch to Bitcoin to keep their business + going. That could be a huge boon for Bitcoin. You may + not agree it's worth the tradeoff, but people are selfish + and may not actually understand or even care about SOPA + legislation itself.<br> + <br> + I think it's <i>not inappropriate</i> for something to be + mentioned on the website about Bitcoin's philosophy being + threatened by SOPA, but I agree Bitcoin should avoid + making any bold political stands. Users could be reminded + that SOPA affects yet another thing they care about, but + it might be better to avoid it altogether. If any + response is made, it should be a very light one.<span + class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br> + <br> + -Alan</font></span> + <div class="im"><br> + <br> + <br> + On 01/16/2012 07:30 PM, Amir Taaki wrote: + <blockquote type="cite"> + <pre>Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly. + +Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin ever does- you've read Satoshi's politically charged whitepaper or seen the genesis block quote. + +<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action</a> + +The Wikipedia community decided on a full and global blackout. Bitcoin should do the same in unison with the rest of the web- sites like Reddit, 4chan and Wikipedia. + +It's funny / almost comical how you consign this to being just another issue or case of moral alarm. Sad. + + + +----- Original Message ----- +From: Jeff Garzik <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com" target="_blank"><jgarzik@exmulti.com></a> +To: Amir Taaki <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:zgenjix@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><zgenjix@yahoo.com></a> +Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">"bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net"</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" target="_blank"><bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net></a> +Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:37 PM +Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bitcoin.org" target="_blank">bitcoin.org</a> SOPA/PIPA blackout + +On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Amir Taaki <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:zgenjix@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><zgenjix@yahoo.com></a> wrote: +</pre> + <blockquote type="cite"> + <pre>How is this not the most important world issue right now? + +EVERYTHING is under threat. Go nuclear to show our nerd-rage. + +Everybody blank your personal sites too. Americans, take to the streets. World, go scream at the US embassy. +</pre> + </blockquote> + <pre>There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage. I would +rather that <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bitcoin.org" target="_blank">bitcoin.org</a> stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate +this in the long run. + +</pre> + </blockquote> + <br> + </div> + </div> + <br> +------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> + Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow!<br> + The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft + developers<br> + is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, + CSS3, MVC3,<br> + Metro Style Apps, more. 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