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| author | Zheming Lin <heater@gmail.com> | 2017-06-13 14:50:26 +0800 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2017-06-13 06:50:35 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners
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Sorry for my understanding of = +English being poor. I=A1=AFll try to answer that. + + +> =D4=DA 2017=C4=EA6=D4=C213=C8=D5=A3=AC13:44=A3=ACJames Hilliard = +<james.hilliard1@gmail.com> =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA +>=20 +> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev +> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org = +<mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote: +>> The BIP is described using Chinese and English. If any part is = +missing or need more specific, please reply. Forgive for my poor = +English. +>>=20 +>> This method will incorporate any upgrade that affects non-mining = +nodes. They should beware that the rule has been changed. +>>=20 +>> TLDR: Major miners activate and orphan the minor. That ensures all = +miners upgrades. Then invalid the tx from not upgrading nodes. Nodes = +must upgrade (with other protocol upgrade codes) in order to work. Then = +the final miner vote over protocol upgrade, with all nodes has the same = +upgraded codes. +>>=20 +>> =3D=3DMotivation=3D=3D +>>=20 +>> = +=BC=F8=D3=DA=D7=EE=B3=F5=B5=C4=B1=C8=CC=D8=B1=D2=D0=AD=D2=E9=B2=A2=CE=B4=BF= +=BC=C2=C7=B2=BB=B2=CE=D3=EB=CD=DA=BF=F3=B5=C4=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=A3=AC= +=B5=BC=D6=C2=D5=E2=D0=A9=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC= +=B6=CA=C7=B1=BB=B6=AF=B5=C4=A3=AC=C0=C1=B6=E8=B5=C4=A1=A3=B5=B1=D4=DA=C9=FD= +=BC=B6=B7=BD=CF=F2=C9=CF=B3=F6=CF=D6=B7=D6=C6=E7=CA=B1=A3=AC=BF=F3=B9=A4=D2= +=B2=B2=BB=D4=B8=D2=E2=D4=DA=B4=ED=CE=F3=B5=C4=C1=B4=C9=CF=CD=DA=BF=F3=A3=AC= +=B5=AB=BF=F3=B9=A4=D3=D6=C3=BB=D3=D0=C8=CE=BA=CE=B7=BD=B7=A8=BF=C9=D2=D4=C8= +=B7=B1=A3=D5=FD=D4=DA=D1=D3=B3=A4=B5=C4=C1=B4=CA=C7=B1=BB=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA= +=B5=E3=B9=E3=B7=BA=BD=D3=CA=DC=B5=C4=C1=B4=A1=A3=D5=E2=BD=AB=D3=B0=CF=EC=C7= +=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B5=C4=B0=B2=C8=AB=A1=A3<br/> +>> In view of the fact that the original Bitcoin consensus did not = +consider the non-mining wallet nodes(as mentioned above), the result is = +that upgrading the consensus of these wallet nodes is passive and lazy. = +When there is disagreement in the direction of the upgrade, the miners = +have no mechanism to ensure that the chain being extended is the chain = +widely accepted by the wallet nodes. This also adversely affects the = +security of the wallet nodes.<br/> +> Wallet nodes being able to fully validate and choose whether or not to +> accept a particular chain is an important part of bitcoins security +> model. + += +=CA=C7=B5=C4=CE=D2=C8=CF=CE=AA=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3=B7=C7=B3=A3=D6=D8=D2= +=AA=A3=AC=D2=F2=B4=CB=B2=BB=D4=B8=D2=E2=BF=B4=B5=BD=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3= +=D2=F2=CE=AA=CE=DE=B7=A8=D4=A4=BC=FB=B5=BD=CD=F8=C2=E7=C9=CF=BF=C9=C4=DC=B7= +=A2=C9=FA=B5=C4=B8=C4=B1=E4=B6=F8=C3=C9=CA=DC=CB=F0=CA=A7=A1=A3=D5=E2=D0=A9= +=BD=DA=B5=E3=D2=C0=C8=BB=D3=B5=D3=D0=D1=A1=D4=F1=B5=C4=C8=A8=C0=FB=A3=AC=B1= +=C8=C8=E7=CD=A8=B9=FD=C0=E0=CB=C6=D3=DA BIP148 =B5=C4=B7=BD=B7=A8=A1=A3 + +I admitted that these nodes a very important. so we don=A1=AFt want = +these nodes suffer financial loss by undetectable network change. These = +nodes always have choice like BIP148. + +>>=20 +>> = +=CA=B9=D3=C3=B8=C3=B7=BD=B7=A8=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=DA=B1=A3=D6=A4=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD= +=DA=B5=E3=D7=CA=B2=FA=B0=B2=C8=AB=B5=C4=C7=E9=BF=F6=CF=C2=A3=AC=C7=D2=CD=A8= +=B9=FD=D4=F6=BC=D3=BC=A4=C0=F8=C8=C3=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=D0= +=AD=D2=E9=A1=A3=D2=BB=B5=A9=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=D0=AD=D2=E9= +=A3=AC=B1=A3=D6=A4=BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=DA=B5=E3=B2=BB=BD=F6=B9=A4=D7=F7=D4=DA=CB= +=E3=C1=A6=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=C9=CF=A3=AC=BB=B9=B9=A4=D7=F7=D4=DA=B1=C8=CC=D8= +=B1=D2=C9=FA=CC=AC=BB=B7=BE=B3=D6=D0=C6=E4=CB=FB=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=CB= +=F9=CA=B9=D3=C3=B5=C4=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=C9=CF=A1=A3=D4=DA=D6=D0=B1=BE=B4=CF= +=B9=B2=CA=B6=CF=C2=B2=BB=BB=E1=B3=F6=CF=D6=B7=D6=B2=E6=A3=AC=D2=D4=CA=B5=CF= +=D6=BD=A5=BD=F8=CA=BD=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3<br/> +>>=20 +>> Apart from ensuring the asset security of wallet nodes, this method = +can be used to provide additional incentives to upgrade the protocol for = +the wallet nodes. Once the wallet nodes upgrade their protocol, the = +miners' nodes can be guaranteed to work - not only on the longest chain, = +but also on the longest chain used by other wallet nodes in the broader = +bitcoin sphere. Under the Nakamoto Consensus, there will be no = +persistent forks as protocol upgrades can be phased in.<br/> +> There is no way to guarantee a wallet node will accept a particular +> block since that is always up to the user. + += +=CE=D2=C3=C7=CE=DE=B7=A8=B6=D4=B4=CB=BD=F8=D0=D0=B1=A3=D6=A4=A1=A3=B5=AB=CA= +=C7=CE=D2=C3=C7=C4=DC=B9=BB=CC=E1=B9=A9=D2=BB=D6=D6=C8=C3=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA= +=B5=E3=C1=CB=BD=E2=B2=A2=B2=CE=D3=EB=B2=BF=CA=F0=B8=C4=B1=E4=B5=C4=BC=A4=C0= +=F8=A1=A3 +We can not have any guarantee. but we can have incentives that they = +participate and be aware about the change happening. +=D3=C3=BB=A7=D7=DC=CA=C7=BF=C9=D2=D4=BD=F8=D0=D0=D1=A1=D4=F1=A1=A3 +Users always have choice. + +>>=20 +>> =3D=3DSpecification=3D=3D +>>=20 +>> 1. =CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD=AB=CA=B9=D3=C3 versionbits = +=B0=E6=B1=BE=CE=BB=C0=B4=B6=A8=D2=E5=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C5=BA=C5=A1=A3BIP = +=C9=FA=D0=A7=CA=B1=A3=AC=CB=F9=D3=D0=C7=F8=BF=E9=D0=E8=D2=AA=CA=B9=D3=C3=D6= +=C6=B6=A8=B5=C4 nVersion =C0=B4=B7=A2=CB=CD=D0=C5=BA=C5<br/> +>> 2. =CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD=AB=CA=B9=D3=C3 tx version = +=C0=B4=B6=A8=D2=E5=B5=B1=C7=B0=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=B0=E6=B1=BE=A1=A3=B5=B1=C7= +=B0=B5=C4 tx version =CA=C7 1=A3=AC=BD=AB=D4=CA=D0=ED tx version =CE=AA = +2 =B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=B2=A2=D4=DA=B5=DA=B6=FE=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA= +=D6=AE=BA=F3=A3=AC=CA=B9 tx version =CE=AA 1 =B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=B7=C7=B7=A8= +=A1=A3<br/> +>>=20 +>> 1. Mining nodes signal by setting a version bit. While this BIP is = +active, all blocks must set the chosen nVersion.<br/> +>> 2. Mining nodes will use tx version to define current version = +transactions. Current tx version is 1, and tx version 2 will be allowed. = +After the second grace period, tx version 1 will be regarded as = +invalid.<br/> +> Sounds like this would cause issues with pre-signed time locked = +transactions. + += +=CE=D2=C3=C7=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=DA=B5=DA=CB=C4=BD=D7=B6=CE=D6=D0=D6=D8=D0=C2=D4= +=CA=D0=ED=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=BB=D2=D7=A1=A3=CE=DE=C2=DB=C9=FD=BC=B6=CA=C7=B7=F1= +=B3=C9=B9=A6=BC=A4=BB=EE=A3=AC=CB=FB=C3=C7=B6=BC=D0=E8=D2=AA=CE=AA=B4=CB=D7= +=F6=BA=C3=D7=BC=B1=B8=A1=A3=CB=FB=C3=C7=B2=A2=B2=BB=C4=DC=B1=BB=B6=AA=CF=C2= +=C9=F5=D6=C1=B1=BB=C6=DB=C6=AD=CE=AA=CA=B2=C3=B4=B6=BC=C3=BB=D3=D0=B7=A2=C9= +=FA=A1=A3 +They can be re-enable in the successful or unsuccessful activation of = +the fourth stage. Whether or not, what they need is to be prepared for = +the future coming. But they can=A1=AFt be left behind or be cheated like = +nothing happened. + +>>=20 +>>=20 +>> =3D=3DDeployment=3D=3D +>> = +=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A3=AC=BD=AB=B7=D6=B3=C9=C8=FD=B2=BD=D6=F0=B2=BD=CA= +=B5=CA=A9=A1=A3=B2=A2=D3=D0=D2=BB=B8=F6=BF=C9=D1=A1=B5=C4=B5=DA=CB=C4=B2=BD= +=C0=B4=BC=AF=B3=C9=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=A1=A3<br/> +>>=20 +>> Protocol upgrading will phase in over three stages. We can have an = +optional fourth stage to integrate codes of protocol upgrade.<br/> +>>=20 +>> 1. =D0=C5=BA=C5=BD=D7=B6=CE=A1=A3=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=CA=B9=D3=C3 = +versionbits =B7=A2=CB=CD=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C5=BA=C5=A1=A3=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5= +=E3=D4=DA=BC=E0=B2=E2=B5=BD 55% =B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=BC=B4=C7=B0 1109/2016 = +=B8=F6=C7=F8=BF=E9=BE=F9=B7=A2=CB=CD=C1=CB=CF=E0=CD=AC=B5=C4=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0= +=C5=BA=C5=A3=AC=BD=F8=C8=EB=CF=C2=D2=BB=BD=D7=B6=CE=A1=A3<br/> +>> 2. =BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3=BE=AD=B9=FD=C1=CB=B5=DA=D2= +=BB=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA 2016 =B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=BA=F3=A3=AC=C7=D2=D7=DC= +=D0=C5=BA=C5=C7=F8=BF=E9=B3=AC=B9=FD=C1=CB = +2218/4032=A3=AC=BE=CD=BF=AA=CA=BC=CA=B9=D3=C3=D0=C2=B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=B0=E6= +=B1=BE=B4=F2=B0=FC=C7=F8=BF=E9=A3=AC=B2=A2=CD=AC=CA=B1=BF=AA=CA=BC=B9=C2=C1= +=A2=BE=C9=B0=E6=B1=BE=A1=A3=B4=CB=CA=B1=CB=F9=D3=D0=BD=DA=B5=E3=BA=CD=C7=AE= +=B0=FC=A3=AC=BD=AB=BF=C9=D2=D4=CA=B9=D3=C3=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B7=A2=CB= +=CD=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=CD=AC=CA=B1=BC=E6=C8=DD=BE=C9=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=BD=BB= +=D2=D7=A1=A3<br/> +>> 3. =C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3=D4=DA=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5= +=E3=BC=E0=B2=E2=B5=BD=B5=DA=B6=FE=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA 4032 = +=B8=F6=C1=AC=D0=F8=B5=C4=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=BA=F3=A3=AC=BF= +=AA=CA=BC=BE=DC=BE=F8=BE=C9=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=D6=BB= +=B4=F2=B0=FC=A3=AF=D7=AA=B2=A5=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A1= +=A3=CD=AC=CA=B1=BD=AB=B4=D3=C4=DA=B4=E6=B3=D8=D6=D0=C9=BE=B3=FD=BE=C9=B0=E6= +=B1=BE=BA=C5=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A1=A3<br/> +>> 4. = +=A3=A8=BF=C9=D1=A1=B5=C4=A3=A9=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3=D4=DA=B5=DA=C8= +=FD=BD=D7=B6=CE=D6=D0=B0=FC=BA=AC=D3=D0=B5=DA=CB=C4=BD=D7=B6=CE=B5=C4=C9=FD= +=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=A1=A3=B5=B1=CE=D2=C3=C7=C8=B7=B1=A3=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5= +=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=B5=BD=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=BD=BB=D2=D7=BA=F3=A3=AC= +=B1=D8=C8=BB=B0=FC=BA=AC=C1=CB=B5=DA=CB=C4=BD=D7=B6=CE=B5=C4=C9=FD=BC=B6=B4= +=FA=C2=EB=A1=A3=D4=F2=B4=CB=CA=B1=BF=C9=D2=D4=CD=A8=B9=FD=BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=DA= +=B5=E3=CD=B6=C6=B1=B5=C4=B7=BD=CA=BD=CD=EA=B3=C9=C8=AB=CD=F8=C2=E7=B5=C4=D0= +=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3 +>>=20 +>> 1. Signal stage: Mining nodes signal using BIP9. The next stage will = +be activated after 55% (1109) of 2016 blocks has the signal.<br/> +>>=20 +>> 2. Mining nodes upgrade stage: After a first grace period of 2016 = +blocks and total signalling blocks passed 2218 of 4032 blocks, miners = +broadcasting blocks with new versionbits in block headers will orphan = +blocks with old versionbits. At this stage all nodes can send = +transactions with new versionbits, and transactions with old versionbits = +will be compatible.<br/> +>>=20 +>> 3. Non-mining nodes upgrade stage: after 4032 continuous blocks with = +new versionbits, mining nodes will start to refuse transactions with old = +versionbits. Only transactions with new versionbits can be relayed and = +included in blocks. Transactions with old versionbits can be safely = +purged from memory pools.<br/> +>>=20 +>> 4. (Optional)Protocol Upgrade stage: The codes dealing with protocol = +upgrade can be integrated in the third stage. After the non-mining nodes = +upgrades to support newer version of transactions, the codes with = +protocol upgrade must be included and now we can use miner vote to = +activate and finish this upgrade.<br/> +>>=20 +>> =D6=C1=B4=CB=A3=AC=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=CD=EA=B3=C9=A1=A3<br/> +>>=20 +>> At this point, the protocol upgrade have phased in.<br/> +>>=20 +>> =3D=3DBenefits=3D=3D +>>=20 +>> 1. =BD=F6=D0=E8=D2=AA=B6=E0=CA=FD=B5=C4=BF=F3=B9=A4=B7=A2=D0=C5=BA=C5=BA= +=F3=BC=B4=BF=C9=BC=A4=BB=EE=A1=A3=D4=DA=D6=D0=B1=BE=B4=CF=B5=C4=B1=C8=CC=D8= +=B1=D2=C2=DB=CE=C4=D6=D0=A3=AC99.9% =B5=C4=BF=C9=C4=DC=D0=D4=CF=C2=A3=AC55= +% =B5=C4=BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=AB=D4=DA 340 = +=B8=F6=C7=F8=BF=E9=BA=F3=C8=B7=B1=A3=B3=C9=CE=AA=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=A1=A3=D5= +=E2=BD=AB=D7=EE=B4=F3=BF=C9=C4=DC=BC=F5=D0=A1=CD=A8=B9=FD=BF=D8=D6=C6=C9=D9= +=CA=FD=CB=E3=C1=A6=B6=F8=CD=CF=D1=D3=CD=F8=C2=E7=C9=FD=BC=B6=B5=C4=BF=C9=C4= +=DC=D0=D4=A1=A3=CE=D2=C3=C7=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=A4=BC=FB=B5=BD=D4=DA=CB=E3=C1=A6= +=D0=C5=BA=C5=B3=AC=B9=FD 51% = +=BA=F3=A3=AC=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD=AB=D1=B8=CB=D9=B5=C4=D4=DA=B5=DA=D2= +=BB=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA=C4=DA=BD=F8=D0=D0=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3<br/> +>> 2. = +=D4=DA=C1=BD=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA=C4=DA=A3=AC=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD= +=BB=D2=D7=B2=BB=CA=DC=D3=B0=CF=EC=A3=AC=D3=D0=D7=E3=B9=BB=B5=C4=CA=B1=BC=E4= +=C9=FD=BC=B6=C7=AE=B0=FC=C8=ED=BC=FE=A1=A3<br/> +>> 3. =B0=E6=B1=BE=D0=C5=CF=A2=B0=FC=BA=AC=D4=DA block header = +=D6=D0=A3=AC=B2=A2=B2=BB=D3=B0=CF=EC SPV =CD=DA=BF=F3=B9=FD=B3=CC=A1=A3=A3= +=A8=BF=B4=C6=F0=C0=B4=CA=C7=A3=BF=A3=A9<br/> +>> 4. = +=D4=DA=C1=BD=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA=BA=F3=A3=AC=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD= +=AB=B1=D8=D0=EB=C9=FD=BC=B6=C7=AE=B0=FC=A3=AC=B7=F1=D4=F2=D2=F2=C3=BB=D3=D0= +=CB=E3=C1=A6=D6=A7=B3=D6=BD=AB=CE=DE=B7=A8=B7=A2=CB=CD=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=D2= +=B2=CE=DE=B7=A8=C8=B7=C8=CF=A1=A3=CF=E0=B6=D4=D3=DA=D4=DA=BD=DA=B5=E3=BC=E4= +=D6=D8=D0=C2=B4=EF=B3=C9=D0=C2=B5=C4=B9=B2=CA=B6=A3=AC=D5=E2=D6=D6=D7=B4=BF= +=F6=B2=A2=C3=BB=D3=D0=B8=FC=D4=E3=B8=E2=A1=A3<br/> +>> 5. = +=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B5=C4=D5=CB=B1=BE=BD=AB=B5=C3=B5=BD=D7=F0=D6=D8=BA= +=CD=B1=A3=BB=A4=A1=A3=CA=B9=D3=C3=C1=B4=CF=C2=C7=AE=B0=FC=B5=C4=D3=C3=BB=A7= +=BD=AB=D0=E8=D2=AA=D4=DA=C7=AE=B0=FC=B7=FE=CE=F1=CC=E1=B9=A9=C9=CC=B5=C4=C9= +=F9=C3=F7=D6=AE=BA=F3=BE=F6=B6=A8=CC=E1=D6=C1=C1=B4=C9=CF=C7=AE=B0=FC=BB=F2= +=B8=FA=CB=E6=A1=A3<br/> +>> 6. = +=BD=AB=C0=B4=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A3=AC=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=DA=C9=FD=BC= +=B6=BF=CD=BB=A7=B6=CB=B0=E6=B1=BE=CD=AC=CA=B1=B0=F3=B6=A8=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD= +=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=B2=A2=BD=F8=D0=D0=B6=C0=C1=A2=B5=C4=BC=A4=BB=EE=CD=B6=C6= +=B1=A1=A3=D5=E2=BD=AB=D4=A4=C1=F4=D7=E3=B9=BB=B5=C4=CA=B1=BC=E4=C8=C3=BD=DA= +=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=C8=ED=BC=FE=D2=D4=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C2=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2=E9=A1= +=A3=BC=B4=CA=B9=BF=F3=B9=A4=CD=B6=C6=B1=BC=A4=BB=EE=CA=A7=B0=DC=D2=B2=B2=BB= +=D3=B0=CF=EC=CF=D6=D7=B4=A1=A3<br/> +>>=20 +>> 1. The activation only requires majority miners signal. As described = +in the paper by Satoshi Nakamoto, 55% miners will be in the longest = +chain after 340 blocks, with 99.9% certainty. This will minimize the = +possibility of delaying network upgrades by controlling a small number = +of hashing power. We can foresee that after 51% signalling, all miners = +will upgrade within the first grace period. <br/> +> Technically soft forks can be implemented at 55% hashpower already +> without an orphaning period(like BIP16). Those that don't upgrade +> would just be at risk of mining invalid blocks. One would not want to +> use this method to try and activate a controversial hard fork since +> it's trivial for miners to false signal. The orphaning period +> effectively forces miners to make a decision but does not necessarily +> force them to make a particular decision since they can simply choose +> to reject the fork and false signal. + += +=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=B5=C4=CE=CA=CC=E2=D4=DA=CE=D2=BF=B4=C0=B4=CE=DE=B7=A8=BD= +=E2=BE=F6=A1=A3=B5=AB=C8=E7=B9=FB=B6=E0=CA=FD=B2=BB=CD=AC=D2=E2=D5=E2=B8=F6= +=B8=C4=B1=E4=A3=AC=CE=AA=CA=B2=C3=B4=CB=FB=C3=C7=BB=B9=D2=AA=C6=DB=C6=AD=A3= +=BF=C8=E7=B9=FB=B6=E0=CA=FD=C8=E7=D6=D0=B1=BE=B4=CF=B9=B2=CA=B6=D6=D0=C3=E8= +=CA=F6=B5=C4=C4=C7=D1=F9=CA=C7=B3=CF=CA=B5=BF=C9=D0=C5=B5=C4=A3=AC=C4=C7=BE= +=CD=B2=BB=BB=E1=D3=D0=C8=CE=BA=CE=CE=CA=CC=E2=A1=A3=CD=A8=B9=FD=CB=E3=C1=A6= +=D7=DC=C4=DC=B7=D6=B3=F6=CA=A4=B8=BA=A1=A3 +False signal can=A1=AFt be solved in my opinion. If the majority part = +just don=A1=AFt agree with the change, why they cheat? If the majority = +part is honest as described in nakamoto consensus, I think that won=A1=AFt= + be a problem. CPU power always decides. + + +>> 2. During the first two grace periods, non-mining nodes will not be = +affected. They have enough time to upgrade their software. <br/> +>> 3. Versionbits included in block header, not influencing the SPY = +mining. <br/> +> The widely deployed stratum based SPV mining does not really provide a +> proper way to validate nversion of the previous block, it only lets +> you see the nversion of the current stratum job since you don't get a +> full bock header. There's always a risk here that miners build on top +> of invalid blocks when SPV mining. + +=D2=B2=D0=ED=CE=D2=CA=C7=B4=ED=B5=C4=CE=D2=B2=A2=B2=BB=BF=CF=B6=A8=A1=A3=C7= +=EB=B6=D4=C8=E7=BA=CE=C8=C3=D5=E2=B8=F6=B7=BD=B7=A8=BC=E6=C8=DD SPY = +=CD=DA=BF=F3=CC=E1=B3=F6=BD=A8=C9=E8=D0=D4=D2=E2=BC=FB=A1=A3 +Maybe I=A1=AFm wrong. Please give some advice that how to make it = +compatible with SPY mining. + +>> 4. After two grace periods, all nodes must be upgraded. Otherwise = +they cannot send transactions or get any confirmations. Compared with = +forming new consensus among nodes, the situation is not worse than = +before. <br/> +> Previous consensus changes have largely been done in backwards +> compatible ways which lets users opt-in to new features. In general +> backwards compatibility is considered a good thing, this seems to make +> that worse. + += +=D5=E2=B2=A2=C3=BB=D3=D0=C7=BF=D6=C6=CE=D2=C3=C7=B5=C4=BD=DA=B5=E3=D7=F7=B3= +=F6=C8=CE=BA=CE=B8=C4=B1=E4=B9=B2=CA=B6=B5=C4=B1=ED=CA=BE=A1=A3=BD=F6=BD=F6= +=C8=C3=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3=CE=AA=BD=D3=CF=C2=C0=B4=BF=C9=C4=DC=B5=C4=B8= +=C4=B1=E4=D7=F6=BA=C3=D7=BC=B1=B8=A1=A3 +It would not force our nodes to do anything that changes the consensus. = +But they should be prepared for the **maybe** upcoming changes. +=D0=AD=D2=E9=B5=C4=B8=C4=B1=E4=BD=AB=CD=A8=B9=FD=BF=F3=B9=A4=CD=B6=C6=B1=B2= +=FA=C9=FA=A3=AC=B5=AB=CA=C7=D5=E2=B8=F6=B9=FD=B3=CC=D3=A6=B8=C3=B1=BB=CB=F9= +=D3=D0=BD=DA=B5=E3=CB=F9=D6=AA=CF=FE=B2=A2=B3=D0=C8=CF=A1=A3 +Protocol upgrades could be done using miners vote. but the progress of = +voting should be acknowledged by all nodes. + + +>> 5. The ledger in non-mining wallet nodes is honored and reserved. = +Users of off-chain wallet services can decide whether or not to follow = +the service providers after they got the public notification from the = +service providers. <br/> +>> 6. Protocol upgrades in the future can be bonded with the upgrades of = +nodes, and the upgrades activate through miners vote independently. = +There would be enough time for nodes to be upgraded in order to support = +new protocols. Even in case of failing in miner activation, the = +situation will not worsen and the status quo will remain. <br/> +>>=20 +>>=20 +>> =3D=3DRisks=3D=3D +>>=20 +>> 1. = +=CB=E3=C1=A6=B5=C4=B2=A8=B6=AF=BB=E1=D3=B0=CF=EC=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=B5=C4=BD= +=E1=B9=FB=A1=A3=D2=F2=B4=CB=D4=BD=B8=DF=B5=C4=BC=A4=BB=EE=B1=C8=C0=FD=D2=AA= +=C7=F3=BD=AB=BC=F5=C9=D9=B6=CC=CA=B1=BC=E4=B7=D6=B2=E6=B5=C4=CE=A3=CF=D5=A1= +=A3<br/> +>> 2. = +=BF=F3=B9=A4=BF=C9=C4=DC=B7=A2=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=C0=B4=B1=DC=C3=E2=B1=BB=B9= +=C2=C1=A2=A3=AC=B5=AB=D4=DA=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BF=B4=C0=B4=CE=DE=B7=A8= +=C7=F8=B7=D6=CA=C7=B7=F1=CA=C7=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=A3=AC=D6=BB=C4=DC=C9=FD=BC= +=B6=A1=A3=B6=F8=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=D6=AE=BA=F3=A3=AC=BF=F3= +=B9=A4=D2=B2=BD=AB=B8=FA=CB=E6=A1=A3<br/> +>> 3. = +=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BF=C9=C4=DC=B7=A2=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=C0=B4=BD=F6=C9= +=FD=BC=B6=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B6=F8=B2=BB=D6=A7=B3=D6=B0=F3=B6=A8=B5=C4=D0=AD= +=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=A3=AC=B5=AB=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=CA=FD=C1= +=BF=CE=DE=B7=A8=C5=D0=B1=F0=A3=AC=D1=CF=CB=E0=B5=C4=D5=E6=CA=B5=BD=DA=B5=E3= +=D3=A6=B5=B1=B8=FA=CB=E6=BF=C9=D6=A4=CA=B5=B5=C4=BF=F3=B9=A4=CD=B6=C6=B1=BD= +=E1=B9=FB=A1=A3<br/> +>> 4. = +=B4=E6=D4=DA=C9=D9=B2=BF=B7=D6=BF=F3=B9=A4=BA=CD=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B9= +=B2=C4=B1=A3=AC=D4=DA=D0=C2=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=BC=A4=BB=EE=BA=F3=D2=C0= +=C8=BB=CA=B9=D3=C3=C0=CF=D0=AD=D2=E9=CD=DA=BF=F3=B5=C4=BF=C9=C4=DC=A1=A3=D5= +=E2=D6=D6=BF=C9=C4=DC=CB=E6=CA=B1=B7=A2=C9=FA=CE=DE=B7=A8=B6=C5=BE=F8=A3=AC= +=B5=AB=CD=A8=B9=FD=C8=C3=B3=C1=C4=AC=B5=C4=B4=F3=B6=E0=CA=FD=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD= +=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=B5=C4=B7=BD=CA=BD=BF=C9=D2=D4=BD=B5=B5=CD=D5=E2=D6=D6= +=D0=D0=CE=AA=B4=F8=C0=B4=B5=C4=C0=FB=D2=E6=A1=A3<br/> +>>=20 +>> 1. The fluctuation of the hashing power will affect the result of the = +longest chain. Higher activating requirement means a lower risk of = +temporary fork. <br/> +>> 2. Miners could simply signal to avoid being orphaned, but from the = +perspective of non-mining wallet nodes, they can't distinguish the false = +signal from the true signal. They must upgrade with the assumption that = +the signals are all true. After all the non-mining nodes have upgraded, = +the miners signalling false signal should follow. <br/> +> Miners can simply announce they are false signalling with coinbase +> tags and other methods. This activation method would likely not be +> viable for controversial changes. + +=C8=E7=B9=FB=B4=F3=B6=E0=CA=FD=BF=F3=B9=A4=CA=C7=B3=CF=CA=B5=B5=C4=A3=AC=BC= +=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=B2=BB=BB=E1=D3=D0=CE=CA=CC=E2=A1=A3 +False signal won=A1=AFt be a problem if majority miners are honest. + +>> 3. Non-mining wallet nodes could false signal without supporting the = +new protocol but since the total number of nodes cannot be = +distinguished, genuine nodes should follow the proven result provided by = +miners vote. <br/> +> Users would likely take into account markets and other factors when +> deciding what to do, the total number of nodes doesn't really matter +> much. Miner signalling is not necessarily indicative of economic and +> user support. + +=BF=F3=B9=A4=D0=E8=D2=AA=D4=DA=BF=C9=D2=D4=C8=B7=B1=A3=B4=F3=B6=E0=CA=FD=D3= +=C3=BB=A7=B2=BB=B1=BB=C9=FD=BC=B6=D3=B0=CF=EC=B5=C4=C7=E9=BF=F6=CF=C2=B2=C5= +=C4=DC=B9=AB=D5=FD=CD=B6=C6=B1=A1=A3 +Miners should vote unbiasedly under the condition that most users are = +not affected by protocol upgrading. + + +>> 4. Miners and non-mining nodes could conspire to fork using old = +protocol consensus. It can't be eliminated, just like in the past but = +through most passive non-mining nodes being upgraded, their benefit is = +reduced. <br/> +>>=20 +>>=20 +>> =3D=3DImplementation=3D=3D +>> ___TBD___ +>>=20 +>> _______________________________________________ +>> bitcoin-dev mailing list +>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org = +<mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev = +<https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev> + +--Apple-Mail=_ED5F487D-9656-41C2-8A61-A8D6AB96024D +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/html; + charset=gb2312 + +<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = +charset=3Dgb2312"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = +-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi = +James:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thank you = +very much for detailed feedback. Sorry for my understanding of English = +being poor. I=A1=AFll try to answer that.</div><div class=3D""><br = +class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote = +type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">=D4=DA = +2017=C4=EA6=D4=C213=C8=D5=A3=AC13:44=A3=ACJames Hilliard <<a = +href=3D"mailto:james.hilliard1@gmail.com" = +class=3D"">james.hilliard1@gmail.com</a>> =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA</div><br = +class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:23 PM, = +Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D""><</span><a = +href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = +none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">> wrote:</span><br = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">The BIP is described using = +Chinese and English. If any part is missing or need more specific, = +please reply. Forgive for my poor English.<br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">This method will incorporate any upgrade that affects = +non-mining nodes. They should beware that the rule has been changed.<br = +class=3D""><br class=3D"">TLDR: Major miners activate and orphan the = +minor. That ensures all miners upgrades. Then invalid the tx from not = +upgrading nodes. Nodes must upgrade (with other protocol upgrade codes) = +in order to work. Then the final miner vote over protocol upgrade, with = +all nodes has the same upgraded codes.<br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=3D=3DMotivation=3D=3D<br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=BC=F8=D3=DA=D7=EE=B3=F5=B5=C4=B1=C8=CC=D8=B1=D2=D0=AD=D2=E9=B2= +=A2=CE=B4=BF=BC=C2=C7=B2=BB=B2=CE=D3=EB=CD=DA=BF=F3=B5=C4=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA= +=B5=E3=A3=AC=B5=BC=D6=C2=D5=E2=D0=A9=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2= +=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=CA=C7=B1=BB=B6=AF=B5=C4=A3=AC=C0=C1=B6=E8=B5=C4=A1=A3=B5=B1= +=D4=DA=C9=FD=BC=B6=B7=BD=CF=F2=C9=CF=B3=F6=CF=D6=B7=D6=C6=E7=CA=B1=A3=AC=BF= +=F3=B9=A4=D2=B2=B2=BB=D4=B8=D2=E2=D4=DA=B4=ED=CE=F3=B5=C4=C1=B4=C9=CF=CD=DA= +=BF=F3=A3=AC=B5=AB=BF=F3=B9=A4=D3=D6=C3=BB=D3=D0=C8=CE=BA=CE=B7=BD=B7=A8=BF= +=C9=D2=D4=C8=B7=B1=A3=D5=FD=D4=DA=D1=D3=B3=A4=B5=C4=C1=B4=CA=C7=B1=BB=C7=AE= +=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B9=E3=B7=BA=BD=D3=CA=DC=B5=C4=C1=B4=A1=A3=D5=E2=BD=AB=D3= +=B0=CF=EC=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B5=C4=B0=B2=C8=AB=A1=A3<br/><br = +class=3D"">In view of the fact that the original Bitcoin consensus did = +not consider the non-mining wallet nodes(as mentioned above), the result = +is that upgrading the consensus of these wallet nodes is passive and = +lazy. When there is disagreement in the direction of the upgrade, the = +miners have no mechanism to ensure that the chain being extended is the = +chain widely accepted by the wallet nodes. This also adversely affects = +the security of the wallet nodes.<br/><br = +class=3D""></blockquote><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: = +inline !important;" class=3D"">Wallet nodes being able to fully validate = +and choose whether or not to</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">accept a particular chain is an = +important part of bitcoins security</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">model.</span><br = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=CA=C7=B5=C4=CE=D2=C8=CF=CE=AA=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3= +=B7=C7=B3=A3=D6=D8=D2=AA=A3=AC=D2=F2=B4=CB=B2=BB=D4=B8=D2=E2=BF=B4=B5=BD=D5= +=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3=D2=F2=CE=AA=CE=DE=B7=A8=D4=A4=BC=FB=B5=BD=CD=F8=C2=E7= +=C9=CF=BF=C9=C4=DC=B7=A2=C9=FA=B5=C4=B8=C4=B1=E4=B6=F8=C3=C9=CA=DC=CB=F0=CA= +=A7=A1=A3=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3=D2=C0=C8=BB=D3=B5=D3=D0=D1=A1=D4=F1=B5=C4= +=C8=A8=C0=FB=A3=AC=B1=C8=C8=E7=CD=A8=B9=FD=C0=E0=CB=C6=D3=DA BIP148 = +=B5=C4=B7=BD=B7=A8=A1=A3</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I admitted = +that these nodes a very important. so we don=A1=AFt want these nodes = +suffer financial loss by undetectable network change. These nodes always = +have choice like BIP148.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><blockquote = +type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = +none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=CA=B9=D3=C3=B8=C3=B7=BD=B7=A8=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=DA=B1=A3=D6=A4=C7= +=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=D7=CA=B2=FA=B0=B2=C8=AB=B5=C4=C7=E9=BF=F6=CF=C2=A3=AC= +=C7=D2=CD=A8=B9=FD=D4=F6=BC=D3=BC=A4=C0=F8=C8=C3=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9= +=FD=BC=B6=D0=AD=D2=E9=A1=A3=D2=BB=B5=A9=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6= +=D0=AD=D2=E9=A3=AC=B1=A3=D6=A4=BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=DA=B5=E3=B2=BB=BD=F6=B9=A4=D7= +=F7=D4=DA=CB=E3=C1=A6=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=C9=CF=A3=AC=BB=B9=B9=A4=D7=F7=D4=DA= +=B1=C8=CC=D8=B1=D2=C9=FA=CC=AC=BB=B7=BE=B3=D6=D0=C6=E4=CB=FB=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD= +=DA=B5=E3=CB=F9=CA=B9=D3=C3=B5=C4=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=C9=CF=A1=A3=D4=DA=D6=D0= +=B1=BE=B4=CF=B9=B2=CA=B6=CF=C2=B2=BB=BB=E1=B3=F6=CF=D6=B7=D6=B2=E6=A3=AC=D2= +=D4=CA=B5=CF=D6=BD=A5=BD=F8=CA=BD=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3<b= +r/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Apart from ensuring the asset = +security of wallet nodes, this method can be used to provide additional = +incentives to upgrade the protocol for the wallet nodes. Once the wallet = +nodes upgrade their protocol, the miners' nodes can be guaranteed to = +work - not only on the longest chain, but also on the longest chain used = +by other wallet nodes in the broader bitcoin sphere. Under the Nakamoto = +Consensus, there will be no persistent forks as protocol upgrades can be = +phased in.<br/><br class=3D""></blockquote><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">There is no way to guarantee a = +wallet node will accept a particular</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">block since that is always up to = +the user.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = +font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = +letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=CE=D2=C3=C7=CE=DE=B7=A8=B6=D4=B4=CB=BD=F8=D0=D0=B1=A3= +=D6=A4=A1=A3=B5=AB=CA=C7=CE=D2=C3=C7=C4=DC=B9=BB=CC=E1=B9=A9=D2=BB=D6=D6=C8= +=C3=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3=C1=CB=BD=E2=B2=A2=B2=CE=D3=EB=B2=BF=CA=F0=B8=C4= +=B1=E4=B5=C4=BC=A4=C0=F8=A1=A3</div><div>We can not have any guarantee. = +but we can have incentives that they participate and be aware about the = +change happening.</div><div>=D3=C3=BB=A7=D7=DC=CA=C7=BF=C9=D2=D4=BD=F8=D0=D0= +=D1=A1=D4=F1=A1=A3</div><div>Users always have choice.</div><br = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=3D=3DSpecification=3D=3D<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. = +=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD=AB=CA=B9=D3=C3 versionbits = +=B0=E6=B1=BE=CE=BB=C0=B4=B6=A8=D2=E5=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C5=BA=C5=A1=A3BIP = +=C9=FA=D0=A7=CA=B1=A3=AC=CB=F9=D3=D0=C7=F8=BF=E9=D0=E8=D2=AA=CA=B9=D3=C3=D6= +=C6=B6=A8=B5=C4 nVersion =C0=B4=B7=A2=CB=CD=D0=C5=BA=C5<br/><br = +class=3D"">2. =CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD=AB=CA=B9=D3=C3 tx version = +=C0=B4=B6=A8=D2=E5=B5=B1=C7=B0=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=B0=E6=B1=BE=A1=A3=B5=B1=C7= +=B0=B5=C4 tx version =CA=C7 1=A3=AC=BD=AB=D4=CA=D0=ED tx version =CE=AA = +2 =B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=B2=A2=D4=DA=B5=DA=B6=FE=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA= +=D6=AE=BA=F3=A3=AC=CA=B9 tx version =CE=AA 1 =B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=B7=C7=B7=A8= +=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. Mining nodes signal by = +setting a version bit. While this BIP is active, all blocks must set the = +chosen nVersion.<br/><br class=3D"">2. Mining nodes will use tx = +version to define current version transactions. Current tx version is 1, = +and tx version 2 will be allowed. After the second grace period, tx = +version 1 will be regarded as invalid.<br/><br = +class=3D""></blockquote><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: = +inline !important;" class=3D"">Sounds like this would cause issues with = +pre-signed time locked transactions.</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=CE=D2=C3=C7=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=DA=B5=DA=CB=C4=BD=D7=B6=CE= +=D6=D0=D6=D8=D0=C2=D4=CA=D0=ED=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=BB=D2=D7=A1=A3=CE=DE=C2=DB=C9= +=FD=BC=B6=CA=C7=B7=F1=B3=C9=B9=A6=BC=A4=BB=EE=A3=AC=CB=FB=C3=C7=B6=BC=D0=E8= +=D2=AA=CE=AA=B4=CB=D7=F6=BA=C3=D7=BC=B1=B8=A1=A3=CB=FB=C3=C7=B2=A2=B2=BB=C4= +=DC=B1=BB=B6=AA=CF=C2=C9=F5=D6=C1=B1=BB=C6=DB=C6=AD=CE=AA=CA=B2=C3=B4=B6=BC= +=C3=BB=D3=D0=B7=A2=C9=FA=A1=A3</div><div>They can be re-enable in the = +successful or unsuccessful activation of the fourth stage. Whether or = +not, what they need is to be prepared for the future coming. But they = +can=A1=AFt be left behind or be cheated like nothing happened.</div><br = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=3D=3DDeployment=3D=3D<br = +class=3D"">=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A3=AC=BD=AB=B7=D6=B3=C9=C8=FD=B2=BD=D6= +=F0=B2=BD=CA=B5=CA=A9=A1=A3=B2=A2=D3=D0=D2=BB=B8=F6=BF=C9=D1=A1=B5=C4=B5=DA= +=CB=C4=B2=BD=C0=B4=BC=AF=B3=C9=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=A1=A3&l= +t;br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Protocol upgrading will phase in = +over three stages. We can have an optional fourth stage to integrate = +codes of protocol upgrade.<br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. = +=D0=C5=BA=C5=BD=D7=B6=CE=A1=A3=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=CA=B9=D3=C3 = +versionbits =B7=A2=CB=CD=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C5=BA=C5=A1=A3=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5= +=E3=D4=DA=BC=E0=B2=E2=B5=BD 55% =B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=BC=B4=C7=B0 1109/2016 = +=B8=F6=C7=F8=BF=E9=BE=F9=B7=A2=CB=CD=C1=CB=CF=E0=CD=AC=B5=C4=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0= +=C5=BA=C5=A3=AC=BD=F8=C8=EB=CF=C2=D2=BB=BD=D7=B6=CE=A1=A3<br/><br = +class=3D"">2. =BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3=BE=AD=B9=FD=C1=CB= +=B5=DA=D2=BB=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA 2016 =B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=BA=F3=A3=AC=C7= +=D2=D7=DC=D0=C5=BA=C5=C7=F8=BF=E9=B3=AC=B9=FD=C1=CB = +2218/4032=A3=AC=BE=CD=BF=AA=CA=BC=CA=B9=D3=C3=D0=C2=B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=B0=E6= +=B1=BE=B4=F2=B0=FC=C7=F8=BF=E9=A3=AC=B2=A2=CD=AC=CA=B1=BF=AA=CA=BC=B9=C2=C1= +=A2=BE=C9=B0=E6=B1=BE=A1=A3=B4=CB=CA=B1=CB=F9=D3=D0=BD=DA=B5=E3=BA=CD=C7=AE= +=B0=FC=A3=AC=BD=AB=BF=C9=D2=D4=CA=B9=D3=C3=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B7=A2=CB= +=CD=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=CD=AC=CA=B1=BC=E6=C8=DD=BE=C9=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=BD=BB= +=D2=D7=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D"">3. = +=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3=D4=DA=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=BC= +=E0=B2=E2=B5=BD=B5=DA=B6=FE=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA 4032 = +=B8=F6=C1=AC=D0=F8=B5=C4=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=B5=C4=C7=F8=BF=E9=BA=F3=A3=AC=BF= +=AA=CA=BC=BE=DC=BE=F8=BE=C9=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=D6=BB= +=B4=F2=B0=FC=A3=AF=D7=AA=B2=A5=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A1= +=A3=CD=AC=CA=B1=BD=AB=B4=D3=C4=DA=B4=E6=B3=D8=D6=D0=C9=BE=B3=FD=BE=C9=B0=E6= +=B1=BE=BA=C5=B5=C4=BD=BB=D2=D7=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D"">4. = +=A3=A8=BF=C9=D1=A1=B5=C4=A3=A9=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3=D4=DA=B5=DA=C8= +=FD=BD=D7=B6=CE=D6=D0=B0=FC=BA=AC=D3=D0=B5=DA=CB=C4=BD=D7=B6=CE=B5=C4=C9=FD= +=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=A1=A3=B5=B1=CE=D2=C3=C7=C8=B7=B1=A3=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5= +=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=B5=BD=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C2=B0=E6=B1=BE=BD=BB=D2=D7=BA=F3=A3=AC= +=B1=D8=C8=BB=B0=FC=BA=AC=C1=CB=B5=DA=CB=C4=BD=D7=B6=CE=B5=C4=C9=FD=BC=B6=B4= +=FA=C2=EB=A1=A3=D4=F2=B4=CB=CA=B1=BF=C9=D2=D4=CD=A8=B9=FD=BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=DA= +=B5=E3=CD=B6=C6=B1=B5=C4=B7=BD=CA=BD=CD=EA=B3=C9=C8=AB=CD=F8=C2=E7=B5=C4=D0= +=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. Signal = +stage: Mining nodes signal using BIP9. The next stage will be activated = +after 55% (1109) of 2016 blocks has the signal.<br/><br = +class=3D""><br class=3D"">2. Mining nodes upgrade stage: After a first = +grace period of 2016 blocks and total signalling blocks passed 2218 of = +4032 blocks, miners broadcasting blocks with new versionbits in block = +headers will orphan blocks with old versionbits. At this stage all nodes = +can send transactions with new versionbits, and transactions with old = +versionbits will be compatible.<br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">3.= + Non-mining nodes upgrade stage: after 4032 continuous blocks with new = +versionbits, mining nodes will start to refuse transactions with old = +versionbits. Only transactions with new versionbits can be relayed and = +included in blocks. Transactions with old versionbits can be safely = +purged from memory pools.<br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">4. = +(Optional)Protocol Upgrade stage: The codes dealing with protocol = +upgrade can be integrated in the third stage. After the non-mining nodes = +upgrades to support newer version of transactions, the codes with = +protocol upgrade must be included and now we can use miner vote to = +activate and finish this upgrade.<br/><br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=D6=C1=B4=CB=A3=AC=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=CD=EA=B3=C9=A1=A3<= +;br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">At this point, the protocol = +upgrade have phased in.<br/><br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=3D=3DBenefits=3D=3D<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. = +=BD=F6=D0=E8=D2=AA=B6=E0=CA=FD=B5=C4=BF=F3=B9=A4=B7=A2=D0=C5=BA=C5=BA=F3=BC= +=B4=BF=C9=BC=A4=BB=EE=A1=A3=D4=DA=D6=D0=B1=BE=B4=CF=B5=C4=B1=C8=CC=D8=B1=D2= +=C2=DB=CE=C4=D6=D0=A3=AC99.9% =B5=C4=BF=C9=C4=DC=D0=D4=CF=C2=A3=AC55% = +=B5=C4=BF=F3=B9=A4=BD=AB=D4=DA 340 = +=B8=F6=C7=F8=BF=E9=BA=F3=C8=B7=B1=A3=B3=C9=CE=AA=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=A1=A3=D5= +=E2=BD=AB=D7=EE=B4=F3=BF=C9=C4=DC=BC=F5=D0=A1=CD=A8=B9=FD=BF=D8=D6=C6=C9=D9= +=CA=FD=CB=E3=C1=A6=B6=F8=CD=CF=D1=D3=CD=F8=C2=E7=C9=FD=BC=B6=B5=C4=BF=C9=C4= +=DC=D0=D4=A1=A3=CE=D2=C3=C7=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=A4=BC=FB=B5=BD=D4=DA=CB=E3=C1=A6= +=D0=C5=BA=C5=B3=AC=B9=FD 51% = +=BA=F3=A3=AC=CD=DA=BF=F3=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD=AB=D1=B8=CB=D9=B5=C4=D4=DA=B5=DA=D2= +=BB=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA=C4=DA=BD=F8=D0=D0=C9=FD=BC=B6=A1=A3<br/>= +<br class=3D"">2. = +=D4=DA=C1=BD=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA=C4=DA=A3=AC=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD= +=BB=D2=D7=B2=BB=CA=DC=D3=B0=CF=EC=A3=AC=D3=D0=D7=E3=B9=BB=B5=C4=CA=B1=BC=E4= +=C9=FD=BC=B6=C7=AE=B0=FC=C8=ED=BC=FE=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D"">3. = +=B0=E6=B1=BE=D0=C5=CF=A2=B0=FC=BA=AC=D4=DA block header =D6=D0=A3=AC=B2=A2= +=B2=BB=D3=B0=CF=EC SPV =CD=DA=BF=F3=B9=FD=B3=CC=A1=A3=A3=A8=BF=B4=C6=F0=C0= +=B4=CA=C7=A3=BF=A3=A9<br/><br class=3D"">4. = +=D4=DA=C1=BD=B8=F6=BF=ED=CF=DE=C6=DA=BA=F3=A3=AC=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BD= +=AB=B1=D8=D0=EB=C9=FD=BC=B6=C7=AE=B0=FC=A3=AC=B7=F1=D4=F2=D2=F2=C3=BB=D3=D0= +=CB=E3=C1=A6=D6=A7=B3=D6=BD=AB=CE=DE=B7=A8=B7=A2=CB=CD=BD=BB=D2=D7=A3=AC=D2= +=B2=CE=DE=B7=A8=C8=B7=C8=CF=A1=A3=CF=E0=B6=D4=D3=DA=D4=DA=BD=DA=B5=E3=BC=E4= +=D6=D8=D0=C2=B4=EF=B3=C9=D0=C2=B5=C4=B9=B2=CA=B6=A3=AC=D5=E2=D6=D6=D7=B4=BF= +=F6=B2=A2=C3=BB=D3=D0=B8=FC=D4=E3=B8=E2=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D"">5. = +=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B5=C4=D5=CB=B1=BE=BD=AB=B5=C3=B5=BD=D7=F0=D6=D8=BA= +=CD=B1=A3=BB=A4=A1=A3=CA=B9=D3=C3=C1=B4=CF=C2=C7=AE=B0=FC=B5=C4=D3=C3=BB=A7= +=BD=AB=D0=E8=D2=AA=D4=DA=C7=AE=B0=FC=B7=FE=CE=F1=CC=E1=B9=A9=C9=CC=B5=C4=C9= +=F9=C3=F7=D6=AE=BA=F3=BE=F6=B6=A8=CC=E1=D6=C1=C1=B4=C9=CF=C7=AE=B0=FC=BB=F2= +=B8=FA=CB=E6=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D"">6. = +=BD=AB=C0=B4=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=A3=AC=BF=C9=D2=D4=D4=DA=C9=FD=BC= +=B6=BF=CD=BB=A7=B6=CB=B0=E6=B1=BE=CD=AC=CA=B1=B0=F3=B6=A8=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD= +=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=B2=A2=BD=F8=D0=D0=B6=C0=C1=A2=B5=C4=BC=A4=BB=EE=CD=B6=C6= +=B1=A1=A3=D5=E2=BD=AB=D4=A4=C1=F4=D7=E3=B9=BB=B5=C4=CA=B1=BC=E4=C8=C3=BD=DA= +=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=C8=ED=BC=FE=D2=D4=D6=A7=B3=D6=D0=C2=B5=C4=D0=AD=D2=E9=A1= +=A3=BC=B4=CA=B9=BF=F3=B9=A4=CD=B6=C6=B1=BC=A4=BB=EE=CA=A7=B0=DC=D2=B2=B2=BB= +=D3=B0=CF=EC=CF=D6=D7=B4=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. = +The activation only requires majority miners signal. As described in the = +paper by Satoshi Nakamoto, 55% miners will be in the longest chain after = +340 blocks, with 99.9% certainty. This will minimize the possibility of = +delaying network upgrades by controlling a small number of hashing = +power. We can foresee that after 51% signalling, all miners will upgrade = +within the first grace period. <br/><br = +class=3D""></blockquote><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: = +inline !important;" class=3D"">Technically soft forks can be implemented = +at 55% hashpower already</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">without an orphaning period(like = +BIP16). Those that don't upgrade</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">would just be at risk of mining = +invalid blocks. One would not want to</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">use this method to try and = +activate a controversial hard fork since</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">it's trivial for miners to false = +signal. The orphaning period</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">effectively forces miners to = +make a decision but does not necessarily</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">force them to make a particular = +decision since they can simply choose</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">to reject the fork and false = +signal.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = +font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = +letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=B5=C4=CE=CA=CC=E2=D4=DA=CE=D2=BF=B4= +=C0=B4=CE=DE=B7=A8=BD=E2=BE=F6=A1=A3=B5=AB=C8=E7=B9=FB=B6=E0=CA=FD=B2=BB=CD= +=AC=D2=E2=D5=E2=B8=F6=B8=C4=B1=E4=A3=AC=CE=AA=CA=B2=C3=B4=CB=FB=C3=C7=BB=B9= +=D2=AA=C6=DB=C6=AD=A3=BF=C8=E7=B9=FB=B6=E0=CA=FD=C8=E7=D6=D0=B1=BE=B4=CF=B9= +=B2=CA=B6=D6=D0=C3=E8=CA=F6=B5=C4=C4=C7=D1=F9=CA=C7=B3=CF=CA=B5=BF=C9=D0=C5= +=B5=C4=A3=AC=C4=C7=BE=CD=B2=BB=BB=E1=D3=D0=C8=CE=BA=CE=CE=CA=CC=E2=A1=A3=CD= +=A8=B9=FD=CB=E3=C1=A6=D7=DC=C4=DC=B7=D6=B3=F6=CA=A4=B8=BA=A1=A3</div><div>= +False signal can=A1=AFt be solved in my opinion. If the majority part = +just don=A1=AFt agree with the change, why they cheat? If the majority = +part is honest as described in nakamoto consensus, I think that won=A1=AFt= + be a problem. CPU power always decides.</div><div><br = +class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">2. During the first two = +grace periods, non-mining nodes will not be affected. They have enough = +time to upgrade their software. <br/><br class=3D"">3. Versionbits = +included in block header, not influencing the SPY mining. <br/><br = +class=3D""></blockquote><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: = +inline !important;" class=3D"">The widely deployed stratum based SPV = +mining does not really provide a</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">proper way to validate nversion = +of the previous block, it only lets</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">you see the nversion of the = +current stratum job since you don't get a</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">full bock header. There's always = +a risk here that miners build on top</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">of invalid blocks when SPV = +mining.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = +font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = +letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=D2=B2=D0=ED=CE=D2=CA=C7=B4=ED=B5=C4=CE=D2=B2=A2=B2=BB= +=BF=CF=B6=A8=A1=A3=C7=EB=B6=D4=C8=E7=BA=CE=C8=C3=D5=E2=B8=F6=B7=BD=B7=A8=BC= +=E6=C8=DD SPY =CD=DA=BF=F3=CC=E1=B3=F6=BD=A8=C9=E8=D0=D4=D2=E2=BC=FB=A1=A3= +</div><div>Maybe I=A1=AFm wrong. Please give some advice that how to = +make it compatible with SPY mining.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote = +type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = +none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D"">4. After two grace periods, all nodes must be upgraded. = +Otherwise they cannot send transactions or get any confirmations. = +Compared with forming new consensus among nodes, the situation is not = +worse than before. <br/><br class=3D""></blockquote><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Previous consensus changes have = +largely been done in backwards</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">compatible ways which lets users = +opt-in to new features. In general</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">backwards compatibility is = +considered a good thing, this seems to make</span><br = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = +font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = +letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = +!important;" class=3D"">that worse.</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=D5=E2=B2=A2=C3=BB=D3=D0=C7=BF=D6=C6=CE=D2=C3=C7=B5=C4= +=BD=DA=B5=E3=D7=F7=B3=F6=C8=CE=BA=CE=B8=C4=B1=E4=B9=B2=CA=B6=B5=C4=B1=ED=CA= +=BE=A1=A3=BD=F6=BD=F6=C8=C3=D5=E2=D0=A9=BD=DA=B5=E3=CE=AA=BD=D3=CF=C2=C0=B4= +=BF=C9=C4=DC=B5=C4=B8=C4=B1=E4=D7=F6=BA=C3=D7=BC=B1=B8=A1=A3</div><div>It = +would not force our nodes to do anything that changes the consensus. But = +they should be prepared for the **maybe** upcoming = +changes.</div><div>=D0=AD=D2=E9=B5=C4=B8=C4=B1=E4=BD=AB=CD=A8=B9=FD=BF=F3=B9= +=A4=CD=B6=C6=B1=B2=FA=C9=FA=A3=AC=B5=AB=CA=C7=D5=E2=B8=F6=B9=FD=B3=CC=D3=A6= +=B8=C3=B1=BB=CB=F9=D3=D0=BD=DA=B5=E3=CB=F9=D6=AA=CF=FE=B2=A2=B3=D0=C8=CF=A1= +=A3</div><div>Protocol upgrades could be done using miners vote. but the = +progress of voting should be acknowledged by all nodes.</div><div><br = +class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">5. The ledger in non-mining = +wallet nodes is honored and reserved. Users of off-chain wallet services = +can decide whether or not to follow the service providers after they got = +the public notification from the service providers. <br/><br = +class=3D"">6. Protocol upgrades in the future can be bonded with the = +upgrades of nodes, and the upgrades activate through miners vote = +independently. There would be enough time for nodes to be upgraded in = +order to support new protocols. Even in case of failing in miner = +activation, the situation will not worsen and the status quo will = +remain. <br/><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">=3D=3DRisks=3D=3D<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. = +=CB=E3=C1=A6=B5=C4=B2=A8=B6=AF=BB=E1=D3=B0=CF=EC=D7=EE=B3=A4=C1=B4=B5=C4=BD= +=E1=B9=FB=A1=A3=D2=F2=B4=CB=D4=BD=B8=DF=B5=C4=BC=A4=BB=EE=B1=C8=C0=FD=D2=AA= +=C7=F3=BD=AB=BC=F5=C9=D9=B6=CC=CA=B1=BC=E4=B7=D6=B2=E6=B5=C4=CE=A3=CF=D5=A1= +=A3<br/><br class=3D"">2. = +=BF=F3=B9=A4=BF=C9=C4=DC=B7=A2=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=C0=B4=B1=DC=C3=E2=B1=BB=B9= +=C2=C1=A2=A3=AC=B5=AB=D4=DA=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BF=B4=C0=B4=CE=DE=B7=A8= +=C7=F8=B7=D6=CA=C7=B7=F1=CA=C7=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=A3=AC=D6=BB=C4=DC=C9=FD=BC= +=B6=A1=A3=B6=F8=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=D6=AE=BA=F3=A3=AC=BF=F3= +=B9=A4=D2=B2=BD=AB=B8=FA=CB=E6=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D"">3. = +=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=BF=C9=C4=DC=B7=A2=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=C0=B4=BD=F6=C9= +=FD=BC=B6=B0=E6=B1=BE=BA=C5=B6=F8=B2=BB=D6=A7=B3=D6=B0=F3=B6=A8=B5=C4=D0=AD= +=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=B4=FA=C2=EB=A3=AC=B5=AB=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=CA=FD=C1= +=BF=CE=DE=B7=A8=C5=D0=B1=F0=A3=AC=D1=CF=CB=E0=B5=C4=D5=E6=CA=B5=BD=DA=B5=E3= +=D3=A6=B5=B1=B8=FA=CB=E6=BF=C9=D6=A4=CA=B5=B5=C4=BF=F3=B9=A4=CD=B6=C6=B1=BD= +=E1=B9=FB=A1=A3<br/><br class=3D"">4. = +=B4=E6=D4=DA=C9=D9=B2=BF=B7=D6=BF=F3=B9=A4=BA=CD=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD=DA=B5=E3=B9= +=B2=C4=B1=A3=AC=D4=DA=D0=C2=D0=AD=D2=E9=C9=FD=BC=B6=BC=A4=BB=EE=BA=F3=D2=C0= +=C8=BB=CA=B9=D3=C3=C0=CF=D0=AD=D2=E9=CD=DA=BF=F3=B5=C4=BF=C9=C4=DC=A1=A3=D5= +=E2=D6=D6=BF=C9=C4=DC=CB=E6=CA=B1=B7=A2=C9=FA=CE=DE=B7=A8=B6=C5=BE=F8=A3=AC= +=B5=AB=CD=A8=B9=FD=C8=C3=B3=C1=C4=AC=B5=C4=B4=F3=B6=E0=CA=FD=C7=AE=B0=FC=BD= +=DA=B5=E3=C9=FD=BC=B6=B5=C4=B7=BD=CA=BD=BF=C9=D2=D4=BD=B5=B5=CD=D5=E2=D6=D6= +=D0=D0=CE=AA=B4=F8=C0=B4=B5=C4=C0=FB=D2=E6=A1=A3<br/><br = +class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. The fluctuation of the hashing power will = +affect the result of the longest chain. Higher activating requirement = +means a lower risk of temporary fork. <br/><br class=3D"">2. = +Miners could simply signal to avoid being orphaned, but from the = +perspective of non-mining wallet nodes, they can't distinguish the false = +signal from the true signal. They must upgrade with the assumption that = +the signals are all true. After all the non-mining nodes have upgraded, = +the miners signalling false signal should follow. <br/><br = +class=3D""></blockquote><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: = +inline !important;" class=3D"">Miners can simply announce they are false = +signalling with coinbase</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">tags and other methods. This = +activation method would likely not be</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">viable for controversial = +changes.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = +font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = +letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=C8=E7=B9=FB=B4=F3=B6=E0=CA=FD=BF=F3=B9=A4=CA=C7=B3=CF= +=CA=B5=B5=C4=A3=AC=BC=D9=D0=C5=BA=C5=B2=BB=BB=E1=D3=D0=CE=CA=CC=E2=A1=A3</= +div><div>False signal won=A1=AFt be a problem if majority miners are = +honest.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">3. Non-mining wallet nodes = +could false signal without supporting the new protocol but since the = +total number of nodes cannot be distinguished, genuine nodes should = +follow the proven result provided by miners vote. <br/><br = +class=3D""></blockquote><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: = +inline !important;" class=3D"">Users would likely take into account = +markets and other factors when</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">deciding what to do, the total = +number of nodes doesn't really matter</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">much. Miner signalling is not = +necessarily indicative of economic and</span><br style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = +display: inline !important;" class=3D"">user support.</span><br = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = +class=3D""></div><div>=BF=F3=B9=A4=D0=E8=D2=AA=D4=DA=BF=C9=D2=D4=C8=B7=B1=A3= +=B4=F3=B6=E0=CA=FD=D3=C3=BB=A7=B2=BB=B1=BB=C9=FD=BC=B6=D3=B0=CF=EC=B5=C4=C7= +=E9=BF=F6=CF=C2=B2=C5=C4=DC=B9=AB=D5=FD=CD=B6=C6=B1=A1=A3</div><div>Miners= + should vote unbiasedly under the condition that most users are not = +affected by protocol upgrading.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><br = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = +font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">4. Miners and non-mining = +nodes could conspire to fork using old protocol consensus. It can't be = +eliminated, just like in the past but through most passive non-mining = +nodes being upgraded, their benefit is reduced. <br/><br = +class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">=3D=3DImplementation=3D=3D<br = +class=3D"">___TBD___<br class=3D""><br = +class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br = +class=3D"">bitcoin-dev mailing list<br class=3D""><a = +href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" = +class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br class=3D""><a = +href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = +class=3D"">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev<= +/a></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br = +class=3D""></div></body></html>= + +--Apple-Mail=_ED5F487D-9656-41C2-8A61-A8D6AB96024D-- + |