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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy covenants (OP_CAT2)
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+> Looks like `OP_CAT` is not getting enabled until after we are reasonably =
+sure that recursive covenants are not really unsafe.
+
+Maybe we should use OP_SUBSTR instead of OP_CAT. Or even better: OP_SPLIT. =
+Then, we could have OP_SPLIT <n> <pos1> <pos2> ... <posN> that would split =
+a string N times (so there will be N+1 pieces). Or we could have just OP_SP=
+LIT <pos> to split one string into two. Or maybe OP_2SPLIT and OP_3SPLIT, j=
+ust to split into two or three pieces (as we have OP_2DUP and OP_3DUP). I t=
+hink OP_SUBSTR or OP_SPLIT is better than OP_CAT, because then things alway=
+s get smaller and we can be always sure that we will have one byte as the s=
+mallest unit in our Script.
+
+On 2022-05-08 04:20:19 user ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.lin=
+uxfoundation.org> wrote:
+> Good morning shesek,
+
+> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 5:08 PM ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@list=
+s.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
+> > * Even ***with*** `OP_CAT`, the following will enable non-recursive cov=
+enants without enabling recursive covenants:
+> > * `OP_CTV`, ...
+> > * With `OP_CAT`, the following would enable recursive covenants:
+> > * `OP_CHECKSIGFROMSTACK`, ...
+>
+> Why does CTV+CAT not enable recursive covenants while CSFS+CAT does?
+>
+> CTV+CAT lets you similarly assert against the outputs and verify that the=
+y match some dynamically constructed script.
+>
+> Is it because CTV does not let you have a verified copy of the input's pr=
+evout scriptPubKey on the stack [0], while with OP_CSFS you can because the=
+ signature hash covers it?
+>
+> But you don't actually need this for recursion. Instead of having the use=
+r supply the script in the witness stack and verifying it against the input=
+ to obtain the quine, the script can simply contain a copy of itself as an =
+initial push (minus this push). You can then reconstruct the full script qu=
+ine using OP_CAT, as a PUSH(<script>) followed by the literal <script>.
+
+ <OP_PUSH_length-of-script> OP_SWAP OP_DUP OP_CAT OP_CAT <rest of script=
+...>
+
+Ha, yes, looks like you are correct here.
+
+`OP_CAT` makes *all* covenant opcodes recursive, because you can always qui=
+ne using `OP_CAT`.
+
+By itself it does not make recursive covenants, but with probably any opcod=
+e it would.
+
+Looks like `OP_CAT` is not getting enabled until after we are reasonably su=
+re that recursive covenants are not really unsafe.
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
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