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| author | Keagan McClelland <keagan.mcclelland@gmail.com> | 2021-03-10 17:47:37 -0700 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2021-03-11 00:47:51 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK
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boundary="000000000000edb69505bd3821e2" +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 00:49:01 +0000 +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 00:47:51 -0000 + +--000000000000edb69505bd3821e2 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" + +LORD HIS EXCELLENCY, + +This isn't different with Taproot either. When you spend a P2SH output you +reveal the script. In Taproot you reveal the portion of the script that is +relevant to allowing you to spend it. There is no value to specifying the +other possible conditions that could have moved the coins because, after +all, you aren't invoking those clauses to move the coins. I am showing you +my fingertip, and pointing to my finger tip, the palm is not relevant. + +Keagan + +On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 2:11 AM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via +bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: + +> Good Afternoon, +> +> You cannot liken the ability to scrutinise the public ledger to be the +> same as hiding information, it is like showing your palm while you are +> pointing at the back of your hand. The advice that I have is P2SH is +> scrutable once the UTXO is spent. Also, there is no public ledger +> obfuscation in creating new addresses, there is a plausible reduction in +> transaction linkage. +> +> KING JAMES HRMH +> Great British Empire +> +> Regards, +> The Australian +> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH) +> of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire +> MR. Damian A. James Williamson +> Wills +> +> et al. +> +> +> Willtech +> www.willtech.com.au +> www.go-overt.com +> and other projects +> +> earn.com/willtech +> linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson +> +> +> m. 0487135719 +> f. +61261470192 +> +> +> This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this +> email if misdelivered. +> ------------------------------ +> *From:* bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org> on +> behalf of Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev < +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +> *Sent:* Saturday, 6 March 2021 1:04 AM +> *To:* Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +> *Subject:* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK +> +> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:48 PM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via +> bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: +> > My concern was that the more complex scripts allow obfuscation of the +> Pay To address +> +> This is no different from options available in P2SH, or from the +> obfuscation achieved by generating a new address for a payment. +> _______________________________________________ +> bitcoin-dev mailing list +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev +> _______________________________________________ +> bitcoin-dev mailing list +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev +> + +--000000000000edb69505bd3821e2 +Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY,</div><div><br></div>This isn'= +;t different with Taproot either. When you spend a P2SH output you reveal t= +he script. In Taproot you reveal the portion of the script that is relevant= + to allowing you to spend it. There is no value to specifying the other pos= +sible conditions that could have moved the coins because, after all, you ar= +en't invoking those clauses to move the coins. I am showing you my fing= +ertip, and pointing to my finger tip, the palm is not relevant.<div><br></d= +iv><div>Keagan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c= +lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 2:11 AM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAM= +ES HRMH via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfounda= +tion.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl= +ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef= +t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> + + + + +<div dir=3D"ltr"> +<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color= +:rgb(0,0,0)"> +Good Afternoon,</div> +<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color= +:rgb(0,0,0)"> +<div><br> +</div> +You cannot liken the ability to scrutinise the public ledger to be the same= + as hiding information, it is like showing your palm while you are pointing= + at the back of your hand. The advice that I have is P2SH is scrutable once= + the UTXO is spent. Also, there + is no public ledger obfuscation in creating new addresses, there is a plau= +sible reduction in transaction linkage.<br> +</div> +<div> +<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color= +:rgb(0,0,0)"> +<br> +</div> +<div id=3D"gmail-m_-6731656619883417203Signature"> +<div> +<div></div> +<div></div> +<div></div> +<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color= +:rgb(0,0,0)"> +</div> +<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color= +:rgb(0,0,0)"> +<div>KING JAMES HRMH</div> +<div>Great British Empire<br> +<div><br> +</div> +<div>Regards,</div> +<div>The Australian</div> +<div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)</div> +<div>of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire</div> +<div>MR. Damian A. James Williamson</div> +<div>Wills</div> +<div><br> +</div> +<div>et al.</div> +<div><br> +</div> +<div>=C2=A0</div> +<div>Willtech</div> +<div><a href=3D"http://www.willtech.com.au" target=3D"_blank">www.willtech.= +com.au</a></div> +<div><a href=3D"http://www.go-overt.com" target=3D"_blank">www.go-overt.com= +</a></div> +<div>and other projects</div> +<div>=C2=A0</div> +<div><a href=3D"http://earn.com/willtech" target=3D"_blank">earn.com/willte= +ch</a></div> +<div><a href=3D"http://linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson" target=3D"_blank">= +linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson</a></div> +<div><br> +</div> +<div><br> +</div> +<div>m. 0487135719</div> +<div>f. +61261470192</div> +<div><br> +</div> +<div><br> +</div> +<span style=3D"font-size:10pt">This email does not constitute a general adv= +ice. Please disregard this email if misdelivered.</span><br> +</div> +<div></div> +</div> +</div> +</div> +</div> +<div> +<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%"> +<div id=3D"gmail-m_-6731656619883417203divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font sty= +le=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>Fro= +m:</b> bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfou= +ndation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.or= +g</a>> on behalf of Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bit= +coin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.lin= +uxfoundation.org</a>><br> +<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 6 March 2021 1:04 AM<br> +<b>To:</b> Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@li= +sts.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundatio= +n.org</a>><br> +<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK</font> +<div>=C2=A0</div> +</div> +<div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"> +<div>On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:48 PM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via<br> +bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" ta= +rget=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br> +> My concern was that the more complex scripts allow obfuscation of the = +Pay To address<br> +<br> +This is no different from options available in P2SH, or from the<br> +obfuscation achieved by generating a new address for a payment.<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> +<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= +bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> +<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = +target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoi= +n-dev</a><br> +</div> +</span></font></div> +</div> +</div> + +_______________________________________________<br> +bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> +<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= +bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> +<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = +rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= +man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div> + +--000000000000edb69505bd3821e2-- + |