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author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2014-06-06 05:11:34 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-06-06 09:10:34 +0000 |
commit | 9726235656d082724fcc309ca8ccb49c789c09eb (patch) | |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] NODE_BLOOM service bit
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Prefix filters offer questionable privacy tradeoffs in my opin= +ion. +> > Same problem as with stealth address proposed use of prefixes. +> > +> > All for scalability, efficiency and decentralization but not ideally at= + the +> > expense of nuking privacy. The effects on privacy are cumulative, and +> > affect everyone not just the user. Same pattern of local decision, glo= +bal +> > effect as with reused addresses. +>=20 +> The performance Bytecoin/Monero/Fantom/etc. systems that use ECDH +> addresses for all transactions seem to be suggesting that the prefixes +> aren't really needed. +>=20 +> At least with current system rules doing the ECDH for each transaction +> seems pretty reasonable. + +Yup. Obelisk's indexing is sufficiently fast that they hadn't even +bothered making Dark Wallet store transaction information between +sessions until recently. Prefix brute-forcing isn't yet implemented, +although prefix filters is being implemented for lookups in general. (at +the very least it gives the server operators some valuable plausible +deniability) + +--=20 +'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org +00000000000000003a68ee16d702ca5dd5547fb4aead910a004747cb06241dd6 + +--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) + +iQGrBAEBCACVBQJTkYXCXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw +MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAzYTY4ZWUxNmQ3MDJjYTVkZDU1NDdmYjRhZWFkOTEwYTAw +NDc0N2NiMDYyNDFkZDYvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 +ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkftD4ggAphIHvgjO/klijrcJkOxBkss8 +HjCzUtQVxl8rkbodbPMi0B6lSeH1FcK2VTprkEMd9tmqk8oKKoijadPkQUn1e/ci +0MJUtoIgWoJf2f8domB0sB+gx2rwUoXbtNWHmJ80s73aRg7xYk5QSoSojpzPvYT4 +1sjbDuBoLxLkVV67N+yA9ewy/OU0GB/JrrzYjq48r+vrTQIsA4c7jZdvIUOUlQC2 +Z2YcYTi8e7mPOQRrc5AbgPLxFInAjbuS2U1T9ceayeJnDSIfM6pmOMqfogYJhNrC +UStG5Xh7ocFzOifhm15q+TvF0g88WbYpwULgpr3+4mskD/biJh9TeyZiK6ozow== +=rOBj +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- + + |