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+> I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands.

+

+I agree on this. Please don't turn Bitcoin project/homepage into some

+political agitation. Not everybody care about political attitude of main

+project developers.

+

+slush

+

+On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com> wrote:

+

+> **

+> You guys are representing both extremes of the issue. In response to Jeff

+> and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is *just any other poltical issue*. It

+> strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin is about. Barring

+> Bitcoin-specific legislation, I don't see how any legislation could be more

+> relevant to Bitcoin and the community around it.

+>

+> On the other hand, Bitcoin is still a non-entity, and shouldn't get in the

+> business of making statements. A central voice for Bitcoin gives the

+> impression that it is actually centralized, and one that has opinions.

+> Plus I wouldn't be surprised if some, heavily-invested Bitcoin users were

+> of the opinion that SOPA/PIPA/whatever could be a huge profit for

+> themselves: once SOPA kicks in and businesses around the world start

+> getting cut off for legit or illegitimate purposes, a lot of them could

+> potentially switch to Bitcoin to keep their business going. That could be

+> a huge boon for Bitcoin. You may not agree it's worth the tradeoff, but

+> people are selfish and may not actually understand or even care about SOPA

+> legislation itself.

+>

+> I think it's *not inappropriate* for something to be mentioned on the

+> website about Bitcoin's philosophy being threatened by SOPA, but I agree

+> Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands. Users could be

+> reminded that SOPA affects yet another thing they care about, but it might

+> be better to avoid it altogether. If any response is made, it should be a

+> very light one.

+>

+> -Alan

+>

+>

+>

+> On 01/16/2012 07:30 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:

+>

+> Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly.

+>

+> Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin ever does- you've read Satoshi's politically charged whitepaper or seen the genesis block quote.

+> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action

+>

+> The Wikipedia community decided on a full and global blackout. Bitcoin should do the same in unison with the rest of the web- sites like Reddit, 4chan and Wikipedia.

+>

+> It's funny / almost comical how you consign this to being just another issue or case of moral alarm. Sad.

+>

+>

+>

+> ----- Original Message -----

+> From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti.com> <jgarzik@exmulti.com>

+> To: Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com> <zgenjix@yahoo.com>

+> Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>

+> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:37 PM

+> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

+>

+> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com> <zgenjix@yahoo.com> wrote:

+>

+> How is this not the most important world issue right now?

+>

+> EVERYTHING is under threat. Go nuclear to show our nerd-rage.

+>

+> Everybody blank your personal sites too. Americans, take to the streets. World, go scream at the US embassy.

+>

+> There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage. I would

+> rather that bitcoin.org stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate

+> this in the long run.

+>

+>

+>

+>

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+&gt; =A0I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands.=A0<d=

+iv><br></div><div>I agree on this. Please don&#39;t turn Bitcoin project/ho=

+mepage into some political agitation. Not everybody care about political at=

+titude of main project developers.</div>

+

+<div><br></div><div>slush<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 17,=

+ 2012 at 1:46 AM, Alan Reiner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:etoth=

+eipi@gmail.com">etotheipi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=

+ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=

+adding-left:1ex">

+

+<u></u>

+

+ =20

+ =20

+ =20

+ <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">

+ You guys are representing both extremes of the issue.=A0 In response

+ to Jeff and Luke-Jr, I don&#39;t see how this is <i>just any other

+ poltical issue</i>.=A0 It strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin

+ is about.=A0 Barring Bitcoin-specific legislation, I don&#39;t see how =

+any

+ legislation could be more relevant to Bitcoin and the community

+ around it.<br>

+ <br>

+ On the other hand, Bitcoin is still a non-entity, and shouldn&#39;t get

+ in the business of making statements.=A0 A central voice for Bitcoin

+ gives the impression that it is actually centralized, and one that

+ has opinions.=A0 Plus I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if some,

+ heavily-invested Bitcoin users were of the opinion that

+ SOPA/PIPA/whatever could be a huge profit for themselves:=A0 once SOPA

+ kicks in and businesses around the world start getting cut off for

+ legit or illegitimate purposes, a lot of them could potentially

+ switch to Bitcoin to keep their business going.=A0 That could be a

+ huge boon for Bitcoin.=A0 You may not agree it&#39;s worth the tradeoff=

+,

+ but people are selfish and may not actually understand or even care

+ about SOPA legislation itself.<br>

+ <br>

+ I think it&#39;s <i>not inappropriate</i> for something to be mentioned

+ on the website about Bitcoin&#39;s philosophy being threatened by SOPA,

+ but I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands.=A0

+ Users could be reminded that SOPA affects yet another thing they

+ care about, but it might be better to avoid it altogether.=A0 If any

+ response is made, it should be a very light one.<span class=3D"HOEnZb">=

+<font color=3D"#888888"><br>

+ <br>

+ -Alan</font></span><div class=3D"im"><br>

+ <br>

+ <br>

+ On 01/16/2012 07:30 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:

+ <blockquote type=3D"cite">

+ <pre>Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly.

+

+Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin e=

+ver does- you&#39;ve read Satoshi&#39;s politically charged whitepaper or s=

+een the genesis block quote.

+

+<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action" t=

+arget=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Act=

+ion</a>

+

+The Wikipedia community decided on a full and global blackout. Bitcoin shou=

+ld do the same in unison with the rest of the web- sites like Reddit, 4chan=

+ and Wikipedia.

+

+It&#39;s funny / almost comical how you consign this to being just another =

+issue or case of moral alarm. Sad.

+

+

+

+----- Original Message -----

+From: Jeff Garzik <a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com" target=3D"_blank">=

+&lt;jgarzik@exmulti.com&gt;</a>

+To: Amir Taaki <a href=3D"mailto:zgenjix@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">&lt;z=

+genjix@yahoo.com&gt;</a>

+Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" target=3D"=

+_blank">&quot;bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net&quot;</a> <a href=

+=3D"mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" target=3D"_blank">&lt=

+;bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net&gt;</a>

+Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:37 PM

+Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D=

+"_blank">bitcoin.org</a> SOPA/PIPA blackout

+

+On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Amir Taaki <a href=3D"mailto:zgenjix@yahoo=

+.com" target=3D"_blank">&lt;zgenjix@yahoo.com&gt;</a> wrote:

+</pre>

+ <blockquote type=3D"cite">

+ <pre>How is this not the most important world issue right now?

+

+EVERYTHING is under threat. Go nuclear to show our nerd-rage.

+

+Everybody blank your personal sites too. Americans, take to the streets. Wo=

+rld, go scream at the US embassy.

+</pre>

+ </blockquote>

+ <pre>There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage.=A0 I w=

+ould

+rather that <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a=

+> stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate

+this in the long run.

+

+</pre>

+ </blockquote>

+ <br>

+ </div></div>

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