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| author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2017-05-12 18:22:14 -0400 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2017-05-12 22:22:27 +0000 |
| commit | 90c49e0abd5dad1269d8fc523cbf067b8d92d95e (patch) | |
| tree | 60d69c764e1d324b4cc8987917e29a9b50779bb4 | |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP: Block signal enforcement via tx fees
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Equally, it's users who ultimately adopt rules, not min= +ers, +and attempting to pay miners to signal certain bits will further confuse th= +is +point. + +Quite likely the outcome of users trying to anonymously pay anonymous miner= +s to +signal certain bits will be the complete breakdown of the honesty of the +nVersion signalling system, currently enforced only by "gentlemans agreemen= +t". + +A more productive direction would be a direct coin-owner signalling process, +with users taking action based on what provable coin-ownership has signalle= +d. + + +Also, as an aside, this "specification" again shows the inadequacy and +unreadability of English language specifications. I'd strongly suggest you +delete it and instead mark the "reference implementation" as the specificat= +ion. + +--=20 +https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org + +--YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZFjWUAAoJECSBQD2l8JH7eEMH/2Vtbl3oDycuJZ5TQgvj55x5 +0lMod3nzh51PBfUSaIEefDxHbXvacl6QDsRusGOU27VcxxX+pcnrl8TVbmR5URO6 +5z5L2AffJtnNLKWvqAxWSaH8jJr0Ss9QyGcGArjKySa3ZqdKSq/S0cKI1NeBz1Fw +0rRgFXps6uVGjOzfveNtzGvJcGyuhlfcKPwkeHEmBmnl0l6ZSzRNaTaPE3SRZqqe +foe/i7ZAvaodhNKbicX2Y8EpE8pOW4/AV4gG9JmAPxj9vn9NiOveDYVhyOPDGncO +0Q3dLOwwGEaswZpxuLEd/c7M7LaxJmjHh9c4H0e5Fa4aK0ohsHtEubeXh/i3AUI= +=dqOY +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- + |