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| author | Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@hozed.org> | 2014-01-03 11:38:17 -0600 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-01-03 17:38:27 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts?
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We should know something +> > about hashes here. TLS is a big pile of 'too big to audit'. Spend +> > a couple of satoshis and put the hash of the source tar.gz and the +> > binaries in the blockchain. Problem solved. +> +> +> Which is why, as pointed out several times at 30c3 by several renowned +> figures, why cryptography has remained squarely outside of mainstream use. +> It needs to just work and until you can trust the connection and what the +> end point sends you, automatically, it's a big fail and the attack vectors +> are many. +> +> <sarcasm>I can just see my mother or grandma manually checking the hash of +> a download... </sarcasm> + +'make' should check the hash. The binary should check it's own hash. The +operating system should check the hash. + +How about if I sell your Grandma an android table loaded only with free +software, and use the existing infrastructure android provides to only +allow software to be installed that can be integrity-verified from a +public key that can be downloaded from the blockchain? + +Would you pay $50 (or 2 litecoin) more for at tablet with free software +that protects you and your grandma's interests, rather than selling them +to google/apple/microsoft? + +I'm working on eventually being able to build hardware for which the +entire design specifications, from case to cpu core verilog, all they way +up to the pre-installed cryptographic currency wallet(s) are all signed +and released as part of the Debian archive. + +But I need people like you to explain to your Grandma why this hardware +costs more than hardware that monetizes eyeballs and sells your private +information to the highest bidder. + + |