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| author | Benjamin <benjamin.l.cordes@gmail.com> | 2015-10-13 16:27:18 +0200 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Liquid
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Can somebo= +dy +> explain this =E2=80=9Cannouncement=E2=80=9D? Just a few comments on this = +=E2=80=9Cproposal=E2=80=9D. +> +> =E2=80=9CThis new construction establishes a security profile inherently = +superior +> to existing methods of rapid transfer and settlement, and is directly +> applicable to other problems within existing financial institutions.=E2= +=80=9D +> +> First of all, what does Bitcoin have to do with existing financial +> institutions? Secondly, what in do you mean by =E2=80=9Crapid transfer=E2= +=80=9D and +> "settlement"? Bitcoin is anonymous, digital cash. There is no such thing = +as +> settlement, there is only the transfer of digital cash and that's it +> (settlement is a bad word for this kind of transfer of property). If you +> make up new terms define them accurately and don't play the +> crypto-buzzword-bingo game. +> +> =E2=80=9CThis, in addition to increasing the security of funds normally s= +ubject to +> explicit counterparty risk, fosters conditions that increase market +> liquidity and reduce capital requirements for on-blockchain business +> models.=E2=80=9D +> +> Again =E2=80=93 what does Bitcoin have to do with =E2=80=9Cmarket liquidi= +ty=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccapital +> requirements=E2=80=9D? +> +> =E2=80=9CBlockstream's innovative solutions are definitely a game changer= + for the +> Bitcoin industry.=E2=80=9D +> +> Does Blockstream have commercial products now? +> +> "These initial launch partners include Bitfinex, BTCC, Kraken, Unocoin, +> and Xapo, and discussions are underway with another dozen major +> institutional traders and licensed exchanges. " +> +> ??? so many questions and no answers. +> +> Regards, +> Benjamin +> + +--001a1134e7d84760680521fd3e69 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">p.s. the links<div><br></div><div>[1]=C2=A0<a href=3D"http= +s://blockstream.com/2015/10/12/introducing-liquid/">https://blockstream.com= +/2015/10/12/introducing-liquid/</a><div>[2]=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.coin= +desk.com/blockstream-commercial-sidechain-bitcoin-exchanges/">www.coindesk.= +com/blockstream-commercial-sidechain-bitcoin-exchanges/</a></div></div></di= +v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 13,= + 2015 at 4:25 PM, Benjamin <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:benjamin= +.l.cordes@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">benjamin.l.cordes@gmail.com</a>><= +/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8= +ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>= +Hello all,</div><div><br></div><div>I was very surprised to learn that Bloc= +kstream will implement Sidechains for exchanges [1], [2] and has been worki= +ng on this privately. Can somebody explain this =E2=80=9Cannouncement=E2=80= +=9D? Just a few comments on this =E2=80=9Cproposal=E2=80=9D.</div><div>=C2= +=A0</div><div>=E2=80=9CThis new construction establishes a security profile= + inherently superior to existing methods of rapid transfer and settlement, = +and is directly applicable to other problems within existing financial inst= +itutions.=E2=80=9D</div><div><br></div><div>First of all, what does Bitcoin= + have to do with existing financial institutions? Secondly, what in do you = +mean by =E2=80=9Crapid transfer=E2=80=9D and "settlement"? Bitcoi= +n is anonymous, digital cash. There is no such thing as settlement, there i= +s only the transfer of digital cash and that's it (settlement is a bad = +word for this kind of transfer of property). If you make up new terms defin= +e them accurately and don't play the crypto-buzzword-bingo game.</div><= +div><br></div><div>=E2=80=9CThis, in addition to increasing the security of= + funds normally subject to explicit counterparty risk, fosters conditions t= +hat increase market liquidity and reduce capital requirements for on-blockc= +hain business models.=E2=80=9D</div><div><br></div><div>Again =E2=80=93 wha= +t does Bitcoin have to do with =E2=80=9Cmarket liquidity=E2=80=9D and =E2= +=80=9Ccapital requirements=E2=80=9D?</div><div><br></div><div>=E2=80=9CBloc= +kstream's innovative solutions are definitely a game changer for the Bi= +tcoin industry.=E2=80=9D</div><div><br></div><div>Does Blockstream have com= +mercial products now?</div><div><br></div><div>"These initial launch p= +artners include Bitfinex, BTCC, Kraken, Unocoin, and Xapo, and discussions = +are underway with another dozen major institutional traders and licensed ex= +changes. "</div></div><div><br></div><div>??? so many questions and no= + answers.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Benjamin</div></div> +</blockquote></div><br></div> + +--001a1134e7d84760680521fd3e69-- + |