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author | Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink.com> | 2017-01-24 10:52:27 -0800 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2017-01-24 18:52:48 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Anti-transaction replay in a hardfork
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If the network characteristic byte is non-zero, and the existing +> network characteristic bit is set, the masked version is used to +> determine whether a transaction should be mined or relayed (policy change) + +Johnson, + +Your proposal supports 8 opt-out bits compatible with may earlier +description: +https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-July/012917.html. + +If the existing network really wants to play along, it should execute a +soft fork as soon as possible to support its own hard-fork opt-out bit +("network characteristic bit"). It is totally inadequate for a new +network to rely on non-standardness in the existing network to prevent +replay there. Instead, in the absence of a supported opt-out bit in the +existing network, a responsible new network would allow something that +is invalid in the existing network, for transactions where replay to the +existing network is undesirable. + +It is an overreach for your BIP to suggest specific changes to be +included in the new network, such as the specific O(n^2) fix you +suggest. This is a matter for the new network itself. + + + |