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| author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2013-12-04 16:51:58 -0500 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2013-12-04 21:52:38 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Floating fees and SPV clients
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[URIs: petertodd.org] +X-Headers-End: 1VoKN3-0004G8-By +Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Floating fees and SPV clients +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 +Precedence: list +List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 21:52:39 -0000 + + +--k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 02:48:08PM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: +> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> wrote: +>=20 +> > replace-by-fee is no less speculative than your original proposals; +> > you're also trying to convince people that things should work +> > differently re: fees +>=20 +>=20 +> The original proposal I started this thread with hasn't even received +> comments - presumably it's uncontroversial. The other discussions are abo= +ut +> how to handle fees in requests that use the payment protocol, which isn't +> currently used anywhere so doing things differently isn't possible. +>=20 +> On the other hand you have been talking about a fundamental change to the +> behaviour of how all Bitcoin nodes operate, which is off topic for this +> thread. +>=20 +> If you have something specific to say about how floating fees should be +> managed by SPV wallets or how fees should be negotiated when the payment +> protocol is in use, this thread is appropriate. Otherwise please take it +> elsewhere. + +Other than you, replacement for fee changing isn't controversial; I know +this because no-one other than you comments on it... just like the +fundemental changes involving your proposed hardfork presumably. (which +I did comment on) + + +Besides, "Happily, there does not have to be One Correct Answer here. +Let wallets compete, and may the best user experience win..." + +--=20 +'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org +000000000000000f9102d27cfd61ea9e8bb324593593ca3ce6ba53153ff251b3 + +--k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) + +iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSn6P9AAoJECSBQD2l8JH7/zsH/3gWXSGg4wpK3DxjtTeNSLwG +Qh6JIFIVfu8ida/k8XLJXIHeCw/iuW4aUSXUk3UpVqoDXsAADwg5xlUFWcODZFsy +ePOoTPsrMcDt3Df2gK1IbbJEkvNJgGIWnY4tR5Ypp/NG5J9hJod8fDAcd1dBFvzY +EKTtZ1ZA1+jih36xogVtQdgw1o+J6t6u05Vjm+qLilDlL988I0dTSKXgV4AnLDdY +QMKIvWmhleDvRS9pacDEyFFayj8Yat6cxfE9hF6e8v9GCYGGSxuHNnWYvtd+NMo4 +/eBpyW8HFij0nMPVn1CrxXxmF5rrBbbkGfk5gkFTUTNdzN4FxRKwf1dPR//rPNo= +=k0EG +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- + + |