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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Separated bitcoin-consensus mailing list (was Re: Bitcoin XT Fork)
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+Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:21:06 -0500
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+From: Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail.com>
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+On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <
+bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
+
+> Apparently that existed already: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman=
+/
+> But technical people run away from noise while non-technical people
+> chase them wherever their voices sounds more loud.
+>
+
+FWIW, and I mentioned this opinion in #bitcoin-dev on IRC, but I am
+perfectly fine with receiving everything through a single mailing list. I
+used to read the Wikipedia firehose of recent edits because I thought
+that's how you were supposed to use the site. Edits per second eventually
+reached beyond any reasonable estimate of human capacity and then I
+realized what was going on. Any sort of "glorious future" for bitcoin with
+hundreds of millions of users will also see this problem for future
+developers, even if only 0.1% of that population are money-interested
+programmers then that's 100,000 programmers to work with. I would never
+want to turn off this raw feed. Having said that, I am somewhat surprise
+that nobody has taken to weekly summaries of research and development
+activity. Summarizing recent work is a valuable task that others can engage
+in just by reading the mailing list and aggregating multiple thoughts
+together, similar to release notes. I was also expecting to see something
+like "individual developer's summaries of things they have found
+interesting over the past 30-90 days or past year" digging up arcane
+details from the mailing list archives, or more infrequent summaries of the
+other smaller batched review emails. Digest mode mailing list consumption
+is often recommended to those who are uninterested in dealing with low
+signal-to-noise, but I suspect that summarizing activity would be more
+valuable for this community, especially for the different cognitive niches
+that have developed.
+
+- Bryan
+http://heybryan.org/
+1 512 203 0507
+
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+<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
+ed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
+=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin=
+-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
+=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
+ing-left:1ex"><div id=3D":3sw" class=3D"a3s" style=3D"overflow:hidden">Appa=
+rently that existed already: <a href=3D"http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/ma=
+ilman/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://sourceforge.net/p/bitco=
+in/mailman/</a><br>
+But technical people run away from noise while non-technical people<br>
+chase them wherever their voices sounds more loud.<br></div></blockquote></=
+div><br>FWIW, and I mentioned this opinion in #bitcoin-dev on IRC, but I am=
+ perfectly fine with receiving everything through a single mailing list. I =
+used to read the Wikipedia firehose of recent edits because I thought that&=
+#39;s how you were supposed to use the site. Edits per second eventually re=
+ached beyond any reasonable estimate of human capacity and then I realized =
+what was going on. Any sort of &quot;glorious future&quot; for bitcoin with=
+ hundreds of millions of users will also see this problem for future develo=
+pers, even if only 0.1% of that population are money-interested programmers=
+ then that&#39;s 100,000 programmers to work with. I would never want to tu=
+rn off this raw feed. Having said that, I am somewhat surprise that nobody =
+has taken to weekly summaries of research and development activity. Summari=
+zing recent work is a valuable task that others can engage in just by readi=
+ng the mailing list and aggregating multiple thoughts together, similar to =
+release notes. I was also expecting to see something like &quot;individual =
+developer&#39;s summaries of things they have found interesting over the pa=
+st 30-90 days or past year&quot; digging up arcane details from the mailing=
+ list archives, or more infrequent summaries of the other smaller batched r=
+eview emails. Digest mode mailing list consumption is often recommended to =
+those who are uninterested in dealing with low signal-to-noise, but I suspe=
+ct that summarizing activity would be more valuable for this community, esp=
+ecially for the different cognitive niches that have developed.<br><div><br=
+></div><div class=3D"gmail_signature">- Bryan<br><a href=3D"http://heybryan=
+.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://heybryan.org/</a><br>1 512 203 0507</div>
+</div></div>
+
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