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| author | Chris Pacia <ctpacia@gmail.com> | 2014-04-24 08:07:10 -0400 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-04-24 12:07:16 +0000 |
| commit | 6eff159f71c64a309ce244110d1a415e19741f67 (patch) | |
| tree | ae3ccd6ba19838c48c85cb0b98bbb4e4072cbbd7 | |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] 0 confirmation txs using replace-by-fee and game theory
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What do people do if they don't +have extra to pay when making a purchase? I have 200 mbtc and want to buy a +200 mbtc phone but I can't because I need 400 mbtc. Sucks for me. + +I would much prefer the hassle of a green address notary than always having +to make sure I have double what I need to make a purchase. +On Apr 24, 2014 7:55 AM, "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99.net> wrote: + +> Am I missing something? +> +> +> The scheme you described does nothing about Finney attacks, which is the +> issue presently faced. +> +> +> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +> Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform +> Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software +> Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready +> Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform +> http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform +> _______________________________________________ +> Bitcoin-development mailing list +> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development +> +> + +--047d7bd769505050e004f7c8b087 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<p dir=3D"ltr">This scheme would discourage people from attempting a Finney= + attack because they would end up worse off if they did. </p> +<p dir=3D"ltr">It would work but it's an ugly hack IMO. What do people = +do if they don't have extra to pay when making a purchase? I have 200 m= +btc and want to buy a 200 mbtc phone but I can't because I need 400 mbt= +c. Sucks for me.</p> + +<p dir=3D"ltr">I would much prefer the hassle of a green address notary tha= +n always having to make sure I have double what I need to make a purchase.<= +/p> +<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 24, 2014 7:55 AM, "Mike Hearn" = +<<a href=3D"mailto:mike@plan99.net">mike@plan99.net</a>> wrote:<br ty= +pe=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = +.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo= +ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c= +cc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am I missing something?</blockquote><div><br></d= +iv><div> + +The scheme you described does nothing about Finney attacks, which is the is= +sue presently faced.=C2=A0</div></div></div></div> +<br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= +-------<br> +Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform<br> +Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software<br> +Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready<br> +Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform<br> +<a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf.n= +et/sfu/ExoPlatform</a><br>_______________________________________________<b= +r> +Bitcoin-development mailing list<br> +<a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">Bitcoin-develo= +pment@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> +<a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development= +" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-de= +velopment</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div> + +--047d7bd769505050e004f7c8b087-- + + |