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author | Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com> | 2016-01-08 10:46:53 -0500 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2016-01-08 15:46:55 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Time to worry about 80-bit collision attacks or not?
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+X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:46:55 -0000 + +--001a11c2abd60d671b0528d47fe5 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +Thanks, Anthony, that works! + +So... + +How many years until we think a 2^84 attack where the work is an ECDSA +private->public key derivation will take a reasonable amount of time? + +And Ethan or Anthony: can you think of a similar attack scheme if you +assume we had switched to Schnorr 2-of-2 signatures by then? + + +And to everybody who might not be reading this closely: All of the above +is discussing collision attacks; none of it is relevant in the normal case +where your wallet generates the scriptPubKey. + + + +-- +-- +Gavin Andresen + +--001a11c2abd60d671b0528d47fe5 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Anthony, that works!<div><br></div><div>So...</div= +><div><br></div><div>How many years until we think a 2^84 attack where the = +work is an ECDSA private->public key derivation will take a reasonable a= +mount of time?<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_= +extra">And Ethan or Anthony: =C2=A0can you think of a similar attack scheme= + if you assume we had switched to Schnorr 2-of-2 signatures by then?</div><= +div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><d= +iv class=3D"gmail_extra">And to everybody who might not be reading this clo= +sely: =C2=A0All of the above is discussing collision attacks; none of it is= + relevant in the normal case where your wallet generates the scriptPubKey.<= +/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br cl= +ear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature">--<br>Gavi= +n Andresen<br></div> +</div></div></div> + +--001a11c2abd60d671b0528d47fe5-- + |