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author | Brooks Boyd <boydb@midnightdesign.ws> | 2014-01-20 16:05:14 -0600 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP0039: Final call
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charset=ISO-8859-1 + +On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM, slush <slush@centrum.cz> wrote: + +> Hi all, +> +> during recent months we've reconsidered all comments which we received +> from the community about our BIP39 proposal and we tried to meet all +> requirements for such standard. Specifically the proposal now doesn't +> require any specific wordlist, so every client can use its very own list of +> preferred words. Generated mnemonic can be then applied to any other +> BIP39-compatible client. Please follow current draft at +> https://github.com/trezor/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki. +> + + +So, because the [mnemonic]->[bip32 root] is just hashing, you've +effectively made your "mnemonic sentence" into a brainwallet? Since every +mnemonic sentence can now lead to a bip32 root, and only the client that +created the mnemonic can verify the mnemonic passes its checksum (assuming +all clients use different wordlists, the only client that can help you if +you fat-finger the sentence is the client that created it)? + +Brooks + +--f46d044288c01c741c04f06e1631 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= +On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM, slush <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma= +ilto:slush@centrum.cz" target=3D"_blank">slush@centrum.cz</a>></span> wr= +ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border= +-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Hi all,</div><div class=3D"gmai= +l_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">during recent months we'v= +e reconsidered all comments which we received from the community about our = +BIP39 proposal and we tried to meet all requirements for such standard. Spe= +cifically the proposal now doesn't require any specific wordlist, so ev= +ery client can use its very own list of preferred words. Generated mnemonic= + can be then applied to any other BIP39-compatible client. Please follow cu= +rrent draft at=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/trezor/bips/blob/master/bip-= +0039.mediawiki" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/trezor/bips/blob/maste= +r/bip-0039.mediawiki</a>.</div> +</div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><di= +v class=3D"gmail_extra">So, because the [mnemonic]->[bip32 root] is just= + hashing, you've effectively made your "mnemonic sentence" in= +to a brainwallet? Since every mnemonic sentence can now lead to a bip32 roo= +t, and only the client that created the mnemonic can verify the mnemonic pa= +sses its checksum (assuming all clients use different wordlists, the only c= +lient that can help you if you fat-finger the sentence is the client that c= +reated it)?</div> +<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Brooks</div= +><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div></div> + +--f46d044288c01c741c04f06e1631-- + + |