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| author | Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail.com> | 2015-07-11 17:29:07 -0500 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-07-11 22:29:09 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Why not Child-Pays-For-Parent?
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I think most people +> would be OK with TXs that don't have enough fees for P2P transfer to stay +> in deadmans land. Most people are stuck in a situation where they payed +> enough to get it into (and keep it in) the pool, but not enough to get it +> out. +> +> If we could get CPFP that only worked on TXs that met the minimum +> threshold for peer propagation, then I think we would be in much better +> position to battle this spam flood. +> +> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Micha Bailey <michabailey@gmail.com> +> wrote: +> +>> Right. The issue (AIUI) is that, right now, even though transactions are +>> evaluated for inclusion as a group with CPFP, they're not yet evaluated for +>> relaying as a unit, nor can they be, because the current p2p protocol +>> doesn't have a way to send multiple transactions in a single protocol +>> message to signify that they should be evaluated together. +>> +>> +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> bitcoin-dev mailing list +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev +> +> + +--047d7b86cf3e491546051aa10417 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">It sounds like you are seeking transaction expiration from= + the mempool, not CPFP.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gm= +ail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 4:30 PM, = +Dan Bryant <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dkbryant@gmail.com" targ= +et=3D"_blank">dkbryant@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class= +=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= +ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I think a compromise will be somewhere = +in the middle.=C2=A0 I think most + people would be OK with TXs that don't have enough fees for P2P=20 +transfer to stay in deadmans land.=C2=A0 Most people are stuck in a situati= +on + where they payed enough to get it into (and keep it in) the pool, but=20 +not enough to get it out.<br><br></div>If we could get CPFP that only=20 +worked on TXs that met the minimum threshold for peer propagation, then I + think we would be in much better position to battle this spam flood.<span = +class=3D""><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On= + Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Micha Bailey <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= +=3D"mailto:michabailey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michabailey@gmail.com</= +a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0= +px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">R= +ight. + The issue (AIUI)=C2=A0is that, right now, even though transactions are=20 +evaluated for inclusion as a group with CPFP, they're not yet evaluated= +=20 +for relaying as a unit, nor can they be, because the current p2p=20 +protocol doesn't have a way to send multiple transactions in a single= +=20 +protocol message to signify that they should be evaluated together.<div><di= +v><span></span><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"gmail= +_extra"><br><br></div></span></div> +<br>_______________________________________________<br> +bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> +<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.= +linuxfoundation.org</a><br> +<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = +rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= +man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div><br></div> + +--047d7b86cf3e491546051aa10417-- + |