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author | Milly Bitcoin <milly@bitcoins.info> | 2015-09-21 07:45:41 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-09-21 11:45:47 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Scaling Bitcoin conference micro-report
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Jerry Brito is the number one guy to go to +for this information. You will find that many early Bitcoiners are +completely clueless as to the motivations of regulators. However, you +still have the problem that some influential developers know Bitcoin but +otherwise are completely ignorant. They will go around claiming +everyone who discusses regulation is a "statist" and so forth. Some +people on this list actually claimed I am "statist" simply by pointing +out that governments do both good and bad things and that most people +trust and depend on governments to a certain extent. That is simply a +fact, it does not support any agenda. + +Another example are the developers who are going around claiming a +stress test is a criminal action against those running nodes. Such a +claim brings all kinds of complicated legal questions about the +liability of people running nodes. Instead of contacting someone who +researched the issue (such as Peter �urda who ended up posting several +sensible replies) the developer posted some hyperbolic article on Reddit +which did nothing but promote misinformation. On top of that it makes +Bitcoiners look totally ridiculous. One day they claim Bitcoin will +collapse all these government institutions and the next day they want +those same government institutions to arrest people for overflowing +their memory pool. + +One final issue about the conference ... the developers should not be +accepting advertisers engaged in nefarious activities. In particular +BicoinTalk was accepted as an advertiser. It is well known that site +has promoted fake banks where many users lost money +(CoinLeders/Inputs.io), illegal investments schemes where,any people +lost funds (BLBSE) and whole host of questionable, illegal, immoral, and +unethical activities. Just because the guy who runs the site wrote a +block explorer that does not mean the developers should blindly promote +a highly questionable web site that damages Bitcoin's reputation. The +people running these events need to start acting responsibly. + +Russ + + + + + + + + + + + |