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authorMark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io>2014-03-24 13:57:14 -0700
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Handling miner adoption gracefully for embedded consensus systems via double-spending/replace-by-fee
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+Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:57:14 -0700
+From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io>
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+Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Handling miner adoption gracefully for
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+On 03/24/2014 01:34 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
+> I'm here because I want to sell corn for bitcoin, and I believe it will be
+> more profitable for me to do that with a bitcoin-blockchain-based system
+> in which I have the capability to audit the code that executes the trade.
+
+A discussion over such a system would be on-topic. Indeed I have made my
+own proposals for systems with that capability in the past:
+
+http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31322676/
+
+There's no reason to invoke alts however. There are ways where this can
+be done within the bitcoin ecosystem, using bitcoins:
+
+http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/32108143/
+
+> I think that's fair, so long as we limit bitcoin-development discussion to
+> issues that are relevant to the owners of the hashrate and companies that
+> pay developer salaries.
+>
+> What I'm asking for is some honesty that Bitcoin is a centralized system
+> and to stop arguing technical points on the altar of distributed/decentralized
+> whatever. It's pretty clear if you want decentralized you should go with
+> altchains.
+
+Bitcoin is not a centralized system, and neither is its development. I
+don't even know how to respond to that. Bringing up altchains is a total
+red herring.
+
+This is *bitcoin*-development. Please don't make it have to become a
+moderated mailing list.
+
+