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author | Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io> | 2014-03-24 13:57:14 -0700 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-03-24 20:57:29 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Handling miner adoption gracefully for embedded consensus systems via double-spending/replace-by-fee
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Indeed I have made my +own proposals for systems with that capability in the past: + +http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31322676/ + +There's no reason to invoke alts however. There are ways where this can +be done within the bitcoin ecosystem, using bitcoins: + +http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/32108143/ + +> I think that's fair, so long as we limit bitcoin-development discussion to +> issues that are relevant to the owners of the hashrate and companies that +> pay developer salaries. +> +> What I'm asking for is some honesty that Bitcoin is a centralized system +> and to stop arguing technical points on the altar of distributed/decentralized +> whatever. It's pretty clear if you want decentralized you should go with +> altchains. + +Bitcoin is not a centralized system, and neither is its development. I +don't even know how to respond to that. Bringing up altchains is a total +red herring. + +This is *bitcoin*-development. Please don't make it have to become a +moderated mailing list. + + |