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| author | Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com> | 2016-10-14 07:38:07 -0300 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2016-10-14 10:38:49 +0000 |
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[bitcoin-dev] DPL is not only not enough, but brings unfounded confidence to Bitcoin users
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Current +users may be confident they are protected but in fact they are not, as the +future generations of users can be attacked, making Bitcoin technology +fully proprietary and less valuable. + +If you read the DPL v1.1 you will see that companies that join DPL can +enforce their patents against anyone who has chosen not to join the DPL. +(http://defensivepatentlicense.org/content/defensive-patent-license) + +So basically most users of Bitcoin could be currently under threat of being +sued by Bitcoin companies and individuals that joined DPL in the same way +they might be under threat by the remaining companies. And even if they +joined DPL, they may be asked to pay royalties for the use of the +inventions prior joining DPL. + +DPL changes nothing for most individuals that cannot and will not hire +patent attorneys to advise them on what the DPL benefits are and what +rights they are resigning. Remember that patten attorneys fees may be +prohibitive for individuals in under-developed countries. + +Also DPL is revocable by the signers (with only a 180-day notice), so if +Bitcoin Core ends up using ANY DPL covered patent, the company owning the +patent can later force all new Bitcoin users to pay royalties. + +Because Bitcoin user base grows all the time with new individuals, the sole +existence of DPL licensed patents in Bitcoin represents a danger to Bitcoin +future almost the same as the existence of non-DPL license patents. + +If you're publishing all your ideas and code (public disclosure), you +cannot later go and file a patent in most of the world except the US, where +you have a 1 year grace period. So we need to do something specific to +prevent the publishers filing a US patent. +What we need much more than DPL, we need that every BIP and proposal to the +Bitcoin mailing list contains a note that grants all Bitcoin users a +worldwide, royalty-free, no-charge, non-exclusive, irrevocable license for +the content of the e-mail or BIP. + +I'm not a lawyer and this is not an advise of any kind. Please check +yourself the DPL v1.1 and get your own idea. I'm speaking on behalf of +myself, and not any company. +(http://defensivepatentlicense.org/content/defensive-patent-license) + +Best regards, + Sergio. + +--001a114c8960ca2d34053ed0d476 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>I read the DPL v1.1 and I find it dang= +erous for Bitcoin users. Current users may be confident they are protected = +but in fact they are not, as the future generations of users can be attacke= +d, making Bitcoin technology fully proprietary and less valuable.<br><br>If + you read the DPL v1.1 you will see that companies that join DPL can=20 +enforce their patents against anyone who has chosen not to join the DPL.<br= +>(<a href=3D"http://defensivepatentlicense.org/content/defensive-patent-lic= +ense" target=3D"_blank">http://<wbr>defensivepatentlicense.org/<wbr>content= +/defensive-patent-<wbr>license</a>)<br><br></div>So + basically most users of Bitcoin could be currently under threat of being s= +ued=20 +by Bitcoin companies and individuals that joined DPL in the same way=20 +they might be under threat by the remaining companies. And even if they joi= +ned DPL, they may be asked to pay royalties for the use of the inventions p= +rior joining DPL.<br><br>DPL changes=20 +nothing for most individuals that cannot and will not hire patent=20 +attorneys to advise them on what the DPL benefits are and what rights=20 +they are resigning. Remember that patten attorneys fees may be prohibitive = +for individuals in under-developed countries.<br><br></div><div>Also DPL is= + revocable by the signers (with only a 180-day notice), so if Bitcoin Core = +ends up using ANY DPL covered patent, the company owning the patent can lat= +er force all new Bitcoin users to pay royalties.<br><br></div><div>Because = +Bitcoin user base grows all the time with new individuals, the sole existen= +ce of DPL licensed patents in Bitcoin represents a danger to Bitcoin future= + almost the same as the existence of non-DPL license patents.<br>=C2=A0<br>= +If you're publishing all your ideas and code (public disclosure), you c= +annot later go and file a patent in most of the world except the US, where = +you have a 1 year grace period. So we need to do something specific to prev= +ent the publishers filing a US patent.<br>What we need much more than DPL, = +we need that every BIP and proposal to the Bitcoin mailing list contains a = +note that grants all Bitcoin users a worldwide, royalty-free, no-charge, no= +n-exclusive, irrevocable license for the content of the e-mail or BIP.<br><= +br>I'm not a lawyer and this is not an advise of any kind. Please check= + yourself the DPL v1.1 and get your own idea. I'm speaking on behalf of= + myself, and not any company. <br>(<a href=3D"http://defensivepatentlicense= +.org/content/defensive-patent-license" target=3D"_blank">http://<wbr>defens= +ivepatentlicense.org/<wbr>content/defensive-patent-<wbr>license</a>)<br><br= +></div></div>Best regards,<br></div>=C2=A0Sergio.=C2=A0 <br></div> + +--001a114c8960ca2d34053ed0d476-- + |