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| author | ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com> | 2022-02-19 11:41:42 +0000 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2022-02-19 11:41:54 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] `OP_EVICT`: An Alternative to `OP_TAPLEAFUPDATEVERIFY`
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That way there is a penalty so cheating attempts aren't free = +(for someone who wants to close a channel anyway) and yet a single fee isn'= +t going to be much of a concern in the accidental publishing case. It still= + perplexes me why eltoo chose no penalty at all vs a small penalty like tha= +t. + +Nothing in the Decker-Russell-Osunstokun paper *prevents* that --- you coul= +d continue to retain per-participant versions of update+state transactions = +(congruent to the per-participant commitment transactions of Poon-Dryja) an= +d have each participant hold a version that deducts the fee from their main= + owned funds. +The Decker-Russell-Osuntokun paper simply focuses on the mechanism by itsel= +f without regard to fees, on the understanding that the reader already know= +s fees exist and need to be paid. + +Regards, +ZmnSCPxj + |