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author | SomberNight <somber.night@protonmail.com> | 2018-12-28 21:41:51 +0000 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2018-12-28 21:42:02 +0000 |
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[bitcoin-dev] Create a BIP to implement Confidential Transactions in Bitcoin Core
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