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author | Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com> | 2014-03-29 13:52:20 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-03-29 17:52:27 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Presenting a BIP for Shamir's Secret Sharing of Bitcoin private keys
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Likewise, including any kind of information that would allow a determination of whether the secret has been correctly reconstituted would give an adversary too much information. Failing silently when given incorrect shares or an insufficient number of shares is intentional. + +I do not believe this is a good tradeoff. It's basically obfuscation of +something that is already considered secure at the expense of +usability. It's much more important to me that the user understands +what is in their hands (or their family members after they get hit by a +bus), than to obfuscate the parameters of the secret sharing to provide +a tiny disadvantage to an adversary who gets ahold of one. + +The fact that it fails silently is really all downside, not a benefit. +If I have enough fragments, I can reconstruct the seed and see that it +produces addresses with money. If not, I know I need more fragments. +I'm much more concerned about my family having all the info they need to +recover the money, than an attacker knowing that he needs two more +fragments instead of which are well-secured anyway. + + + + |