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+Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:08:36 -0400

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+Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] OP_CAT Research Fund sponsored by StarkWare

+To: Victor Kolobov <victor.k@starkware.co>,

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+While I welcome the effort, its worth pointing out that bounties like this have a very long history

+of generating no interesting results because people who might otherwise generate interesting results

+are rarely motivated by bounties.

+

+Matt

+

+On 8/29/24 9:18 AM, 'Victor Kolobov' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List wrote:

+> Hey all,

+>

+>

+> StarkWare has announced a $1 million bounty for compelling arguments either in favor of or against

+> the activation of OP_CAT. This bounty is overseen by a committee which includes the following members:

+>

+> *

+>

+> Andrew Poelstra (Chair)- Blockstream

+>

+> *

+>

+> Victor Kolobov (Secretary General)- StarkWare

+>

+> *

+>

+> Avihu Levy- StarkWare

+>

+> *

+>

+> Clara Shinkleman- Chaincode

+>

+> *

+>

+> Ethan Heilman- BastionZero

+>

+> *

+>

+> Louis Guthman- StarkWare

+>

+> *

+>

+> Olaoluwa Osuntokun- Lightning Labs

+>

+> *

+>

+> Robin Linus- ZeroSync

+>

+> *

+>

+> Tadge Dryja

+>

+> The bounty is intended to gather well-reasoned arguments from the community, either supporting or

+> opposing the activation of OP_CAT. Topics of interest include but are not limited to: the security

+> implications of OP_CAT activation on Bitcoin, OP_CAT-based computing and locking script logic on

+> Bitcoin, applications and protocols utilizing OP_CAT on Bitcoin, and general research related to

+> OP_CAT and its impact.

+>

+>

+> Please apply here <https://starkware.co/submission-proposals/>!

+>

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