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+What if the smart contract platform(s) disappear?

+

+The proposal induces a very centralized system, to my knowledge all of

+existing sidechains whether on bitcoin or ethereum are centralized,

+except lightning (if we forget that someone must watch what others are

+doing when you are on a trek in Nepal)

+

+Now I don't get why a sidechain should be a blockchain on top on another

+one (given also that we can't consider bitcoin or ethereum as

+decentralized today, so the path might be long for the sidechains...),

+the latest is used to store the final state, the former does not have to

+store forever the intermediate states, then it could just use a

+decentralized system (not necessarilly blockchain-like) to store the

+intermediate states and maybe be a distributed escrow

+

+I know, easy to say, please do it (why not), now the fact that

+sidechains claim to be decentralized or that they will be is just

+misleading people (that's not the case of your proposal but it does not

+say what happens if the platforms go down)

+

+

+Le 04/04/2019 � 03:55, ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev a �crit :

+> https://zmnscpxj.github.io/bitcoin/unchained.html

+>

+> Smart contracts have traditionally been implemented as part of the consensus rules of some blokchain. Often this means creating a new blockchain, or at least a sidechain to an existing blockchain. This writeup proposes an alternative method without launching a separate blockchain or sidechain, while achieving security similar to federated sidechains and additional benefits to privacy and smart-contract-patching.

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