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| author | Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli.ch> | 2017-06-19 18:30:18 +0200 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2017-06-19 16:30:23 +0000 |
| commit | 1d05be55474df6163d0bdd41dee97f8a05ee6e7e (patch) | |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal: Compact Client Side Filtering for Light Clients
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Maybe If the transaction is = +marked +> as RBF-able, etc. +>=20 +> Really basic usability: provide information to your users when you = +can, +> should they want to, and by default on. + +I see this use case. +But I did receive bank wire transfers for the last decades without = +_immediately_ knowing that someone sent funds to me. +I personally would ALWAYS trade the higher bandwidth consumption (300MB = +mempool filtering) or slower notification time (maybe ~1h) for = +preserving privacy. +I agree, there are use cases where you want immediate notification, = +those use cases could probably be solved by not trowing away privacy = +(=E2=80=9Eparsing=E2=80=9C all transactions and running in the = +background). + +/jonas + +--Apple-Mail=_60DFEC37-A165-4624-9B94-4AC5DED59AF8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: attachment; + filename=signature.asc +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; + name=signature.asc +Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEyhopCNzi8TB0xizeHrd2uwPHki0FAllH/BoACgkQHrd2uwPH +ki2+tw//dEcDeIv5T1EF9Yz5igV1eeG3pmXH4zczZvL0yPLmtyq5OiyfkH6HXN4x +xfDl8DHRLAUMTvlTRnlpILTOhM/FIumwgdklkC1bzl6danROuiFjs+0nVbevvX91 +LVZI0Z13x5tyqEvuN+YRogvuhYUUekeULc7IPrWzgueCjhbtBqX2rp9tMw8Qp5at +gS7ID7thDDh+TPNJcwhRiGK87Jgl7VgFPfiynGvmHN3FuRH/C+CU5XKSpSayI74Q +fy62jRAlrtDaI8uzf0ox69jm0JqYheE+uLv/smX02lzMC74DKmmIrFNqqmeBmzXe +kOXe7MxBQc28KMOZjvRwumHUbUOrDt/lMWi07o6uqh+66ZESHoiNRU6Nmx9nsldT +r1ps4Z/cUslDutmbw6B+K73oanlBSPB0+GR+sw2fViv+cXS7NxL2EzyLwLWGNJT5 +TC8+xuyLXWAcYVHomLumNWxt6AcNHgdMjykdOU87vcEiv8E5OfFpyU+3Ss3+GEby +fpCAENwyt1B6hALuIdvR+50Mb++1rUGxxVFQ/KoUZgu0H6TnyLS6tIOgrGrlxsAY +V3VR+6fXc32eezQvgPfpNDSS6etNmPA9YdTLrzY53dgdWvuUIQAQYZntiL3OjjjT +iDmHnwZTmNElgYzZDvOMAQfrIsucTLhrz3Xm6gIFGYVVFxO7EfY= +=K3eb +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--Apple-Mail=_60DFEC37-A165-4624-9B94-4AC5DED59AF8-- + |