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author | Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> | 2015-01-31 14:11:42 +0100 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Is there a way to estimate the maximum number of transactions per minute Bitcoin can handle as it is today?
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The first part should be readable text, + while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. + +--8323328-59247149-1422709903=:21504 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT + + +On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Nick Simpson wrote: + +> This has been discussed before. I believe most people don't expect Bitcoin to replace all of the various methods of payment. Scalability is +> always a concern, just not to the level of Alipay this year (or the next or the next for that matter.) + +Yes, that about summarizes it. + +The block chain is a single channel broadcasted over the entire +world, and I don't believe it will ever be possible nor desirable to broadcast all the +world's transactions over one channel. + +The everyone-validates-everything approach doesn't scale. It is however +useful to settle larger transactions in an irreversible, zero-trust way. +That's what makes the bitcoin system, as it is now, valuable. + +But it is absurd for the whole world to have to validate every purchase of +a cup of coffee or a bus ticket by six billion others. + +Naively scaling up the block size will get some leeway in the short term, +but I believe a future scalable payment system based on bitcoin will be +mostly based on off-blockchain transactions (in some form) or that there +will be a hierarchical or subdivided system (e.g. temporary or per-locale +sidechains). + +Wladimir +--8323328-59247149-1422709903=:21504-- + + |