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| author | Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> | 2018-02-19 00:15:59 -0500 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2018-02-19 05:16:02 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Some thoughts on removing timestamps in PoW
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Changing the max number of coins, the block reward, = +the difficulty algo, mining policy and protocol is going to be a = +non-starter. Also, what are the proposed quantifiavle benefits from = +removing timestamps? How would this be done at the protocol level? Are = +these other changes related to removing timestamps/rationale for other = +supply changes? +>=20 +> Regards, +> Ryan J. Martin +>=20 + + +--Apple-Mail=_CDAD6EA8-5E4B-44DE-9489-FD5104334091 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/html; + charset=us-ascii + +<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = +charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html= + charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = +-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = +class=3D"">Real quick (I've received some off-list replies and do plan = +to respond to those), want to be clear: this thread is not meant to be = +interpreted as a proposal to modify Bitcoin (it is not a BIP), it is = +just, exactly as the subject says, some thoughts I had that I hadn't = +seen expressed elsewhere, that I felt like sharing, in case they are at = +all useful/interesting to anyone.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div= + class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"">Greg<br class=3D""><div = +class=3D""> +<span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = +14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = +normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; = +font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; = +font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; = +line-height: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=3D""><br = +class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">--</span><br style=3D"color: rgb(0, = +0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = +font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; = +font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; = +font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; = +widows: 2;" class=3D""><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = +normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = +text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = +font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; = +font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; = +font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; = +widows: 2;" class=3D"">Please do not email me anything that you are not = +comfortable also sharing</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = +font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = +normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = +font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; = +font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; = +font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; = +widows: 2;" class=3D""> with the NSA.</span> +</div> +<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D"">On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Ryan J Martin <<a = +href=3D"mailto:rjmarti2@millersville.edu" = +class=3D"">rjmarti2@millersville.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br = +class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""> + +<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" = +class=3D""> + +<div class=3D""> +<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""> +<div class=3D"">To be frank, this kind of thing would be better off = +attempted as a fork to a new coin. Changing the max number of coins, the = +block reward, the difficulty algo, mining policy and protocol is going = +to be a non-starter. Also, what are the proposed quantifiavle + benefits from removing timestamps? How would this be done at the = +protocol level? Are these other changes related to removing = +timestamps/rationale for other supply changes?</div> +<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""> +</div> +<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Regards,</div> +<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Ryan J. Martin<br class=3D""> +<div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br class=3D""> +</div> +</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br = +class=3D""></div></body></html>= + +--Apple-Mail=_CDAD6EA8-5E4B-44DE-9489-FD5104334091-- + +--Apple-Mail=_505D80AF-E6D2-4F53-A01B-4D1539F4B64E +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: attachment; + filename=signature.asc +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; + name=signature.asc +Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEgYtgnomHliYDCUth7GcgK+kJUkcFAlqKXY8ACgkQ7GcgK+kJ +UkeAoQ/+LVkuEbJy2h60/KTZhbLR/mM2T78EbRXBfVr1D6iNosOmuPKc3B5teOTx +ehSKGebvXXUQg8W4qASLxMohsBCuFh11JEvoPhKlpGUcxcpd18fFuLyvmeBj/2HX +vL0u073tcE/QNQGSTqkEFvnu0g28huGsvhA8zoeEPH5euhzrgTPoZkqe1hiZEks1 +1PV3VR0rrXRChJ2pRnGVCNFn9oIqwWBkNjPyKya0mZqcuRuDeCeQ1/5El+qgM15Q +gBva3k9P7sEcVVYF6Uzc9MxrqcnIaoNiugah1I55XMHVnrxUBwjRCY2vjZld0Pe2 +bNXT2O8scFk5ZnPR6gyx9v5ACnpMgbWCjWd8JCHllSsSr6JAR3Ydq03RUGD64QaR +JGyrU44MHYbA0jD6RsjTG7StReHVu6+Jlp31nCPBkgsvGylmNu2/1fpIzNrkNsRi +2usdLmCvsIczGqy1SxQqkovqm6LO0BboTAbkzok6Woarl+c6z1iYTOwnec7cAt9R +NfFIvwUpmhTX3I7zyKGCbj7coDs8qblyz9s+J2AuFViSHc0n4SCuk+1RuwM56lAJ +O/fzodBIsTwe7ZZDqqeinwtecO4Jv8Xa+aCULegpc/F13+34iGv+K8C0PQcC1MBr +GAErOQtdhzVzJJDao7w5YU4lD9aKm9achFkzq6kAPPk1q6foH/c= +=fTV4 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--Apple-Mail=_505D80AF-E6D2-4F53-A01B-4D1539F4B64E-- + |