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| author | Vincenzo Palazzo <vincenzopalazzodev@gmail.com> | 2023-04-30 17:22:01 +0200 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2023-04-30 15:22:08 +0000 |
| commit | 117b6dd51a17723db54197d898c1e0161b12b65f (patch) | |
| tree | 0d06318284591fe86f15647abbb795dd3753e509 | |
| parent | 7a9b3a05f7253356a4f4f7d8001f890fceef03bc (diff) | |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] A new Bitcoin implementation integrated with Core Lightning
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+ Sun, 30 Apr 2023 08:22:04 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from localhost ([165.231.178.21]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id + a16-20020ac25210000000b004eb252e3eb5sm2002316lfl.135.2023.04.30.08.22.02 + (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); + Sun, 30 Apr 2023 08:22:03 -0700 (PDT) +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 17:22:01 +0200 +Message-Id: <CSA6YMDAU8FF.1FEV1VYNWWH3K@vincent-arch> +From: "Vincenzo Palazzo" <vincenzopalazzodev@gmail.com> +To: "niftynei" <niftynei@gmail.com>, "Bitcoin Protocol Discussion" + <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, "Michael Folkson" + <michaelfolkson@protonmail.com> +X-Mailer: aerc 0.14.0 +References: <aka4qP9Cig-OhfMlQ9y1kghZWExjpno4cs47KIgYwv4aLYtiQB37eHbj2X2hiDuoK0D1gSeKWP97P0bRADbTg1CZRBIpHGZ5WFFYPWIJ87Y=@protonmail.com> + <fiR7LHbBUV54aYegN2eIGIwX5f8Sg5bfaSSoBT0niB1huGYNGyvNeDQ1q32o15PRMC4JfaZUv_H06zuChvRgsMD5QaqZTX_bm-MPVw52asc=@protonmail.com> + <CAM1a7P0qEkydNQQt38UUvyX3SorfgPNyfO79j72roG0_zo22+w@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <CAM1a7P0qEkydNQQt38UUvyX3SorfgPNyfO79j72roG0_zo22+w@mail.gmail.com> +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 20:45:46 +0000 +Cc: Lightning Dev <lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] A new Bitcoin implementation + integrated with Core Lightning +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 15:22:08 -0000 + +Hi Michael and Lisa, + +> Hi Michael, +> +> CLN as implemented is currently nicely decoupled from the block source; a= +s +> a project we assume that the node runner will choose a block backend that +> fits their self-sovereignty goals. +> +> This provides us with a nice separation of concerns. The block source is +> responsible for ensuring that only consensus valid data is delivered to t= +he +> node, which in turn allows us to focus on processing and reacting to that +> data, as necessary. + +Let me just mention that [1] I have been working on a plugin=20 +that allows experimentation with different types of Bitcoin Core=20 +node alternatives (including core too), and it also supports BIP 157=20 +with nakamoto [2]. + +In the upcoming months, I plan to allocate some time to work=20 +directly on Nakamoto. + +> There=E2=80=99s probably a real opportunity to =E2=80=9Ccomingle=E2=80=9D= + the peering of LN gossip +> + block data networks, this has been suggested a few times but never +> seriously pursued from the LN side. Having the peering functions of +> bitcoin-core broken out into a more composable/reusable piece may be a go= +od +> first step here, and as a project would largely be on the bitcoin core +> side. Maybe this work is already in progress? I havent been keeping up wi= +th +> developments there. + +A missing piece at the moment is a unified approach to fee calculation.=20 +This logic is critical for Lightning nodes, so if we don't have a uniform= +=20 +way of estimating fees, it could lead to several issues. + +P.S: The fee estimation problem may have already been solved by Neutrino,= +=20 +but I'm not aware of it. + +[1] https://github.com/coffee-tools/folgore +[2] https://github.com/cloudhead/nakamoto + +Cheers! + +Vincent. + |