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| author | Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> | 2015-06-19 11:37:34 +0200 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-06-19 09:37:41 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Concerns Regarding Threats by a Developer to Remove Commit Access from Other Developers
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Whether that happens in some kind of +stable organised way or (as with the current code) a fairly chaotic way +doesn't change the fundamental truth: *some users will find their bitcoin +savings have become uneconomic to spend*. + +Here's a recent user complaint that provides a preview of coming +attractions: + +https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/39r3bi/breadwallet_asking_me_to_pay_over_10_network_fee/ + +Hello, I'm just trying to send my small Sarutobi-tips stash (12,159 bits) +> onto a paper wallet. When I try to send it, a window pops up stating +> "insufficient funds for bitcoin network fee, reduce payment amount by 1,389 +> bits?" This would be a fee of $0.32 to send my $2.82, leaving me with $2.50. + + +These sorts of complaints will get more frequent and more extreme in the +coming months. I realise that nobody at Blockstream is in the position of +running an end user facing service, but many of us are .... and we will be +the ones that face the full anger of ordinary users as Bitcoin hits the +wall. + +--047d7b3a82e27d55ad0518dbacf7 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo= +ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left= +-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;paddi= +ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmai= +l_quote"><div>Or alternatively, fix the reasons why users would have negati= +ve experiences with full blocks</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><b= +r></div><div>It's impossible, Mark. <i>By definition</i>=C2=A0if Bitcoi= +n does not have sufficient capacity for everyone's transactions, some u= +sers who were using it will be kicked out to make way for the others. Wheth= +er that happens in some kind of stable organised way or (as with the curren= +t code) a fairly chaotic way doesn't change the fundamental truth: <b>s= +ome users will find their bitcoin savings have become uneconomic to spend</= +b>.</div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Here's a recent user complaint that= + provides a preview of coming attractions:</div><div><br></div><div><a href= +=3D"https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/39r3bi/breadwallet_asking_me_= +to_pay_over_10_network_fee/">https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/39r3= +bi/breadwallet_asking_me_to_pay_over_10_network_fee/</a><br></div><div><br>= +</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b= +order-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:s= +olid;padding-left:1ex"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,arial,sans-serif;= +font-size:14px;line-height:18.2000007629395px">Hello, I'm just trying t= +o send my small Sarutobi-tips stash (12,159 bits) onto a paper wallet. When= + I try to send it, a window pops up stating "insufficient funds for bi= +tcoin network fee, reduce payment amount by 1,389 bits?" This would be= + a fee of $0.32 to send my $2.82, leaving me with $2.50.</span></blockquote= +><div><br></div><div>These sorts of complaints will get more frequent and m= +ore extreme in the coming months. I realise that nobody at Blockstream is = +=C2=A0in the position of running an end user facing service, but many of us= + are .... and we will be the ones that face the full anger of ordinary user= +s as Bitcoin hits the wall.</div></div></div></div> + +--047d7b3a82e27d55ad0518dbacf7-- + + |