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| author | Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> | 2014-07-04 17:20:23 +0200 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-07-04 15:20:31 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] ASIC-proof mining
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diff --git a/3f/fb18dea2832f991c856a1f6e6a7c141e0851ba b/3f/fb18dea2832f991c856a1f6e6a7c141e0851ba new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25c07f103 --- /dev/null +++ b/3f/fb18dea2832f991c856a1f6e6a7c141e0851ba @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] + helo=mx.sourceforge.net) + by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) + (envelope-from <mh.in.england@gmail.com>) id 1X35Hr-0004Fz-T4 + for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; + Fri, 04 Jul 2014 15:20:31 +0000 +Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com + designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) + client-ip=209.85.214.182; envelope-from=mh.in.england@gmail.com; + helo=mail-ob0-f182.google.com; +Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com ([209.85.214.182]) + by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) + (Exim 4.76) id 1X35Ho-00064X-L8 + for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; + Fri, 04 Jul 2014 15:20:31 +0000 +Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id nu7so1971587obb.41 + for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; + Fri, 04 Jul 2014 08:20:23 -0700 (PDT) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-Received: by 10.182.181.74 with SMTP id du10mr13360739obc.52.1404487223153; + Fri, 04 Jul 2014 08:20:23 -0700 (PDT) +Sender: mh.in.england@gmail.com +Received: by 10.76.35.234 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 08:20:23 -0700 (PDT) +In-Reply-To: <5408721.UFIVL0MiXs@momentum> +References: <10566815.3CllqoMfON@momentum> + <CAAS2fgRrAOgEv7Hq4BofS5UoDPsJy3hEt34od54pY6vtEq0Agw@mail.gmail.com> + <5408721.UFIVL0MiXs@momentum> +Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 17:20:23 +0200 +X-Google-Sender-Auth: oInfbts1gT46AoArHXeUPtyDMkU +Message-ID: <CANEZrP3tRWuoUv8Xw5OgXRsfw4WEpTWp=UEOe-Xjt8LAr_fEPw@mail.gmail.com> +From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> +To: Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com> +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0118479a071ac804fd5faaaf +X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) +X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. + See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. + -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for + sender-domain + 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider + (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) + -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record + 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message + 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, + not necessarily valid + -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature +X-Headers-End: 1X35Ho-00064X-L8 +Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] ASIC-proof mining +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 +Precedence: list +List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 15:20:32 -0000 + +--089e0118479a071ac804fd5faaaf +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +Yup, no need to apologise. If nothing else the conversations get archived +where other people can use them to get up to speed faster. A lot of these +discussions get spread across forums, lists and IRC so it can be hard to +know what the current state of the art thinking is. + +Recall the second prong of my opening argument - if you could beat ASICs, +you'd end up with botnets. I prefer having the chain be dominated by a +single pool for a while than having one with a major botnet presence, given +their history of doing things like mining empty blocks and giving random +people enormous electricity bills. + +I think we can make good head way if we just optimise a lot and finish +things off, to be honest. I'm not sure we need an algorithmic silver +bullet. Remember you can always outsource mining by just not having any +hardware at all, CEX style, so trying to prevent outsourcing using clever +hacks seems ultimately doomed. + +--089e0118479a071ac804fd5faaaf +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">Yup, no need to apologise. If nothing else the conversatio= +ns get archived where other people can use them to get up to speed faster. = +A lot of these discussions get spread across forums, lists and IRC so it ca= +n be hard to know what the current state of the art thinking is.<div class= +=3D"gmail_extra"> +<br>Recall the second prong of my opening argument - if you could beat ASIC= +s, you'd end up with botnets. I prefer having the chain be dominated by= + a single pool for a while than having one with a major botnet presence, gi= +ven their history of doing things like mining empty blocks and giving rando= +m people enormous electricity bills.</div> +<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I think we = +can make good head way if we just optimise a lot and finish things off, to = +be honest. I'm not sure we need an algorithmic silver bullet. Remember = +you can always outsource mining by just not having any hardware at all, CEX= + style, so trying to prevent outsourcing using clever hacks seems ultimatel= +y doomed.</div> +</div> + +--089e0118479a071ac804fd5faaaf-- + + |