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| author | Steven Pine <steven.pine@gmail.com> | 2015-09-20 17:13:08 -0400 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-09-20 21:13:09 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Scaling Bitcoin conference micro-report
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This is what threat model is: +> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model +> +> Nobody here discounts governments as a threat. +> +> As to the "proper threat model", you can't construct one since your +> attacker is essentially unbounded. +> +> For example, any large government could easily obtain 51% of hash power +> and then only accept transactions from "certified services". +> +> + + +-- +Steven Pine +(510) 517-7075 + +--001a113f7fe845b49d0520343b46 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">That's a simple fallacy, historically governments even= + hegemons, fail, in fact it would be odd to assert that a government will n= +ot fail, therefore ascribing godlike and limitless powers to a government i= +s again the view of either a shill or someone untutored in history.</div><d= +iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 20, 201= +5 at 5:10 PM, NxtChg <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:nxtchg@hush.co= +m" target=3D"_blank">nxtchg@hush.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote c= +lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;= +padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><br> +>Anyone who doesn't consider governments the proper threat model is = +either a shill or an idiot.<br> +<br> +</span>You meant to say "threat". This is what threat model is: <= +a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta= +rget=3D"_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model</a><br> +<br> +Nobody here discounts governments as a threat.<br> +<br> +As to the "proper threat model", you can't construct one sinc= +e your attacker is essentially unbounded.<br> +<br> +For example, any large government could easily obtain 51% of hash power and= + then only accept transactions from "certified services".<br> +<br> +</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class= +=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Steven Pine<div>(510) 517-7075</= +div></div></div></div> +</div> + +--001a113f7fe845b49d0520343b46-- + |