Re: Gina, Barbour and Vaughan on Time

From: Ken Clements (Ken@InnovationOnDmnd.com)
Date: Sun Dec 05 1999 - 19:10:35 MST


Robert Owen wrote:

> I wish to thank Gina "Nanogirl" Miller for bring Barbour's work to my
> attention.
>
> Bob

Thanks from me, also. I enjoyed this discussion very much because I have
been looking for techniques to explain the idea of a timeless Universe.
It is not an easy one. When I start to explain why I think that the
passage of time is just an illusion, I can usually watch the audience
glaze over. Of course, from inside the Universe, you cannot stand outside
of it and see it as a static whole. This requires making some kind of
model and reasoning by analogy.

Sometimes I use the analogy of a reel of movie film of a live event in
which each frame represents the Universe at a 'now'. If you start running
the projector at any point, the characters will seem to act with knowledge
of what has happened up to there, but not what is on the rest of the reel.

The advantage of the timeless Universe position is that is does *not*
require something to break the time symmetry in order to make 'now'
somehow unique. Otherwise you have to ask yourself "why is now when it is
and not at some other time?" or the 'now' part of: "why am I looking a the
Universe from this here and now?"

I will leave the symmetry problem with the 'here' part of that last line
"for later."

-Ken



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