Re: UPL: Dogs and Domestication

From: Delvieron@aol.com
Date: Sat Dec 04 1999 - 08:45:08 MST


I
 <<Yes, but you can see some of their reasoning on the latter, no? I mean, if
 you breed for certain traits you might produce a dog that has trouble
 breathing (as in pugs), hip problems (in the larger breeds), and other
 quality of life issues.>>

Actually, I would tend to agree that these are bad things, though usually
unintended consequences of the desired trait. I would argue that breeding
should focus on rectifying these maladaptations that cause dogs so much
trouble. You could use genetic engineering to speed up the process. Of
course, your fixes to the problems may also have unintended side effects<g>.
 
 <<Uplifting would, hopefully, differ in that the goal is not to breed for
some
 superficial trait. Nor once we get an uplifted organism would we continue
 to uplift it -- unless it agrees.>>

I suppose intelligence can't be considered that superficial<g>, though I see
no reason not to breed for superficial traits as long as they are beneficial
or neutral in their effects on the species well-being. And of course, once
an uplifted organism is raised to maturity, it becomes master of its own
destiny.
 
 << That's why I typed my last sentence in the above quoted paragraph as I
did.
 Notably, the domestication process itself was a form of niche exploitation.
 However, one the domestication was over, humans were able to, as they became
 more aware of what selective breeding (and now genetic engineering) can do,
 take more control over the process. Still, humans are not outside
 evolution.:)>>

I would agree with this.
 
<< There's an Erik Frank Russell short story the name of which escapes me that
 has dogs using humans to take over an alien race. For some strange reason,
 I'm more suspicious of cats.:)
 
 Cheers!
 
 Daniel Ust
 http://mars.superlink.net/neptune/ >>

Perhaps because the dogs have us all fooled<bg>.

Glen Finney



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