Re: religion bashing?

From: Max More (max@maxmore.com)
Date: Fri Oct 22 1999 - 02:56:41 MDT


At 07:03 PM 10/21/99 -0600, Aaron wrote:
>
>Science has faith at its foundations as well. Science puts faith in a few
>fundamental assumptions -- universality, inductive proofs, etc...
>The difference between a science and a religion is that science does
>everything it can possibly do to minimize the amount of faith needed.
>Religions are generally based on faith in excess.

Aaron, while I agree with much of your comment, I have to take exception to
this. Science does not (or need not) have *any* place for faith, if by
faith we are talking about beliefs that are held in the absence of or
contrary to the evidence--beliefs that are given an absolute foundation
utterly resistant to the possibility of refutation.

For my reasons for this view (not original to me), please see
www.maxmore.com/pcr.htm for my essay on Pancritical Rationalism (my talk
from our first conference in 1994).

I think this point is exceeding important. To grant that science is based
on foundations of faith inevitably collapses the distinction between
science/reason and irrational faith. That this view is common is probably
the fault of a long philosphical tradition of rationalists and empiricists
who sought indubitable grounds for belief. They just couldn't seem to live
with the idea that maybe there aren't any. To me, the ability to question
your deepest convictions is one of the core aspects of being extropian. (So
go ahead and convince me that science is based on faith in the sense I've
stated--maybe I'm wrong on this very fundamental point...)

Onward!

Max



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