Re: SciAm article "Fate of Life in the Universe"

From: hal@finney.org
Date: Tue Oct 19 1999 - 16:55:04 MDT


Robin Hanson, <rhanson@gmu.edu>, writes:
> The 11/99 Scientific American has an article on "The Fate
> of Life in the Universe", by L. Krauss and G. Starkman.
>
> Abstract: "Billions of years ago the universe was too hot for
> life to exist. Countless eons hence, it will become so cold
> and emplty that life, no matter how ingenious, will perish."
>
> They cite their preprint: http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/9902189

Lawrence Krauss BTW is the author of the best seller, The Physics of
Star Trek.

I missed the SciAm article, but in looking at their preprint it is curious
that they don't mention Frank Tipler. Much of their effort seems to
be in contradicting Dyson's claim that life could expand forever in
an expanding universe, but Tipler already did that in his Physics of
Immortality. I can't really judge the merits of the two works, though,
the physics is mostly over my head.

They also mention that perhaps wormholes and basement universes could
offer life some new avenues of escape, but Tipler claims to have closed
those off as well.

Their abstract and some of the statements in their paper can be read to
suggest that they are claiming life is ultimately limited in all universe
geometries, but I exchanged email with Krauss and he clarified that they
are only talking about permanently-expanding universes.

Krauss said that he was "generally aware" of Tipler's work, but he was
skeptical of Tipler's idea that a Big Crunch could provide an infinite
amount of computation in a finite time.

Hal



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