Re: Brain shocks may help depression

From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Thu Oct 14 1999 - 02:42:00 MDT


"Rob Harris" <rob@hbinternet.co.uk> writes:

> >``It was remarkable,'' recalled Dr. Mark George of the Medical
> >University of South Carolina, who performed the experimental
> >implant. ``I said, 'Are you being forced to laugh or do you feel
> >good inside?' He said both.''
>
> This is very interesting. It clearly demonstrates a startling lack of
> understanding of the nature of the mind on the part of Dr. George. It also
> highlights the need for a better language system, a more low level structure
> that doesn't allow highly ambiguous terms such as "you".
> So....what was Dr. George asking when he said "Are you being forced to
> laugh..."?

He was likely trying to see if the laughter was just due to the
laughter reflex or due to positive stimulation of the limbic
system. A big deal of difference.

> By applying a stimulus to the associated part of the brain,
> happiness/laughter or whatever will be generated in the consciousness of the
> subject, as certain auditory stimuli do the same.

There was another paper last year that discussed this. It described
the effect of stimulating a part of the prefrontal cortex (I think) of
a girl that made her experience her situation as funny.

> There is no "force", this
> is the way the mind works. I think the problem may rest with the common
> misconception of "free will" meaning that a human spirit (or whatever) is
> completely responsible for the self-definition of it's motivations,
> impulses, or "will".

Sure. But I think you make a mistake by attributing this view to
Dr. Mark George, of whose views we actually know nothing.

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