Re: Mother nature

From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Wed Sep 15 1999 - 11:35:19 MDT


"David Lubkin" <lubkin@unreasonable.com> writes:

> Given quadrillions of sensors and lots of computational power, how far in
> advance can we predict severe or extreme weather and seismic events?

It depends on their Lyapunov exponents; the uncertainty increases
exponentially over time. I haven't seen any actual numbers (they
likely vary from climate to climate and place to place) but likely the
upper limit for hurricanes is on the order of days. Seismic events
might be even worse, since they are likely initiated by very small
slips that lead to crack formation. It is much easier to estimate the
probability of different sized quakes or hurricanes in the near future
than predict exactly when they will appear.

> How can we divert or dissipate them?

Some experiments (US navy, I seem to recall) have been done on seeding
hurricanes for rain, hoping to dissipate the energy. Unfortunately the
effects appear to be small, and research was discontinued when people began to worry about liabilities if a manipulated hurricane hurt somebody.

> The only idea I've ever heard is somehow using strategically placed,
> low-yield, clean nuclear weapons, either for earthquakes or for
> tsunamis. What would happen if you sent a terawatt power beam from
> orbit to the eye of a hurricane?

>From my understanding, nothing much. The eye is an area of low
pressure where hot humid air rises to the high atmosphere; making it
hotter will only fuel the hurricane a bit more. Disrupting the flow
seems hard, since there are many cubic kilometers of air flowing
towards it at high velocities that would restore the flow after a
disruption. You need to cool down the sea driving it. Maybe something
like the solution in Barne's _Mother of Storms_ where ice crystals are
spread in the stratosphere (using comet ice, in his case) to cool down
the sea ahead of the hurricane.

> Can we use our advanced warning
> and automatically move all structures out of range?

Depends on their size and speed; if people live in utility fog or
easily nanofactured houses it would be quite easy to move away from an
area and rebuild if necessary. Only valuable immobile structures such
as historical sites or big structures need to be protected.

> Are there natural planetary forces strong enough to damage a
> diamondoid beanstalk?

I guess the wind forces on a beanstalk can be significant; they might
not damage it but cause lateral oscillations. Lightening can of course
vaporise diamondoid, and I would definitely want it fireproofed.

> Beyond dealing with crises, can we have true weather control? How?

What about a planet-encompassing Utility fog?

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