From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@www.aeiveos.com)
Date: Fri Sep 10 1999 - 11:21:04 MDT
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 Enigl@aol.com wrote:
>
> << . . . Om Yo Ricio actually
> sent people out to Africa in an attempt to get Ebola samples for use as
> biological agents. >>
This isn't going to have the impact it once had, since there has
been a recent discovery of a native African plant that seems
to kill the bacteria.
>
> See also, reference: Olson, Kyle B. Aum Shinrikyo: Once and Future Threat?
> _Emerging Infectious Diseases_ Special Issue Biological Warfare. 5:513-516.
> (July/August) 1999.
>
> This article's purpose is to understand, not only this cult, but other
> extreme and terrorist groups potentially using biological weapons.
Thank you for providing this reference. Exploring the minds of
cults/terrorists will allow us a better understanding of how
to deal with them in the future.
> Nanotech attacks, similar in strategy, purpose and use by Aum and other
> cult/extremist groups will be very difficult to control without several
> anti-crime forces pushing against them, using technology I can only guess at.
It depends on the nature of the attack. The grey-goo style of
attack can be physically contained, starved of energy and
neutralized with high doses of radiation.
A more subtle attack of time-activated nanobot infections would
have to be dealt with by your own nanoimmune system.
> What technologies can be used without hindering nanotech development and
> retaining the level of freedom, privacy, and liberty extropians desire?
I believe that open source trumps secret development of attack systems.
Since many many people would have a lot to lose by being vulnerable
to such attacks, I would believe that people would actively band
together to provide nanodefense systems. Killing people that are
enhanced through nanomedicine gets *very* difficult. You essentially
have to dismantle the brain. If people have virtual backup copies
that are activated upon their death, then killing them becomes
pretty pointless.
> Do we develop James L. Halperin's _Truth Machine_ fool-proof lie detector
> first or concurrently?
>
I'm not sure that a Truth Machine buys you much. I had a lot
of trouble with the concept when I read about it. With nanotech
you should be able to "edit" memories at least to some degree.
I would imagine nanobots sitting in the synapses, while you
"recall" the information you want to hide, then they actively
disrupt those paths so you can no longer remember it. They
should be able to store the original synaptic settings
in an inaccessible encrypted format.
Now, of course the technology works in reverse if used by the
"authorities" on the terrorists. Add the thought control bots,
tune them up, and it becomes impossible for the terrorist to
remember he was a terrorist. *Very* scary technology however.
Definately kinder and gentler than some current solutions though.
Would anyone care to comment on what motivates these groups?
Clearly in some groups, they are willing to die for their cause.
I don't think that in and of itself would define a condition
of insanity. How "sane" are these people really? If confronted
with a body of evidence that their beliefs are outmoded or
incorrect, will they change their minds?
If not, then we have a very interesting problem of when is it
justified to "adjust" the personal reality of an individual?
Also, worth noting is the degree to which nanosurveillance
would make the organizing of such groups very difficult.
Sweeping rooms for recorders is going to be difficult
if the operate in record/wait/broadcast mode. A nanobot
can store a lot of voice/video. It potentially gets worse
since it may be difficult to know that I'm not "infected"
with a nanorecorderbot without dismantling myself.
I think there is a big problem that with rooms & people so
much larger than the recording devices it is almost
impossible to create a secure environment.
Is the solution simply to infect everyone with nanorecorderbots
that the authorities can "tap" whenever a crime occurs?
This seems to be only a small step away from leaving your
DNA at a crime scene today.
Robert
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