Re: Waco: Govt Set Fire

From: Ian Goddard (Ian@Goddard.net)
Date: Thu Sep 09 1999 - 22:31:24 MDT


At 04:03 PM 9/9/99 -0700, hal@finney.org wrote:
>
>In the case of Waco, the same thing happens. There is a web site
>devoted largely to debunking and opposing the film, Waco, the Rules
>of Engagement.

  IAN: The site owner, Carol Valentine, has also
  "debunked" the Nazi holocaust... ahem. Claims
  of disagreement do not inherently indicate
  that evidence is suspect. The only basis for
  disagreement in The Washington Post article
  is the claim that the flashes are reflections
  of sunlight. The main problem with that claim
  is that the flashes often occur at cyclic rates
  identical to machine-gun fire. The odds that
  pieces of glass will often emit reflections
  in rapid pulses is flatly implausible.

  Doctor Allard is one of the world's top FLIR
  experts, as is Fred Zegel, quoted in the article
  you posted to your site wherein Zegel states:
  "In one instance, where the guys drop from tanks,
  that was firing... There was no reflection." The
  fact is that the flashes are ideally shaped like
  the muzzle flashes of guns, wide at one end and
  tapering toward the other end. There are not
  reflections, or flashes, seen in any of the
  areas of debris where there should be a lot
  of broken glass. The Post also observes that
  those it queried were "defense contractors."
  It's surprising then that several of them did
  agree that the FLIR shows gun shots when you
  consider that they were paid via the same entity
  they would be accusing of murder if they said
  they were gun shots. A clear conflict of interest.

  Dr. Allard speaks the plane and visible truth
  when The Post notes that "he says the weapons
  signatures are so clear as to eliminate all
  doubt." Also, an ex-CIA agent who was recently
  interviewed by Dallas Morning News claims that
  Delta Force agents fired shots at the building.
  A Congressional Committee has recently promised
  him protection from threats against his life.
  
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