From: Brian D Williams (talon57@well.com)
Date: Thu Sep 09 1999 - 12:56:55 MDT
From: mark@unicorn.com
>You're seriously suggesting dropping a 20MT bomb on Baghdad?
>Really? I'm not misinterpreting you here? Are you insane?
You're not only misinterpreting, you're doing so deliberately.
In the event of a military conflict where B/C weapons are involved
I would advocate a nuclear response, since Baghdad is the military
center, it would be a prime target. I would probably provide 48
hours notice, (evacuate) then it would be crater city.
>>Nice of you to put such little value on U.S. soldiers.
>When they're acting as hired mercenaries, sent out to put Western
>puppet leaders back in place in the name of 'freedom' and
>'democracy', why should anyone value them higher than the hundreds
>of thousands or millions of Iraqi civilians who you would happily
>kill with your hydrogen bomb?
Clearly you do not understand what a mercenary is, or more likely
yet another deliberate misinterpretation.
I value one U.S. soldier more than Baghdad. I would not "happily"
kill anyone.
>>yes I believe in the law of talion, use a weapon of mass
>>destruction, get one used on you.....
>So when Arabs decided to use nukes or bio/chemical weapons on DC
>and a few other US cities in retaliation for the US nuclear strike
>on Baghdad you'll just nod your head and say 'Well, that just
>serves us right for using nuclear weapons'?
Strawman again, the nuclear response would be just that, a
response. If anyone would launch a new attack after that, they too
would receive an overwhelming response......
>I mean, seriously, forget for a moment that you're American.
>Imagine yourself as a foreigner reading this discussion, realising
>that ordinary Americans believe that they should be able to attack
>any other country which annoys them, for any reason, and if that
>other country decides to defend itself with the only effective
>weapons it has, those Americans believe that they are perfectly
>justified in vaporizing foreign cities containing millions of
>civilians in retaliation.
I have no intension of forgetting for an instant that I'm an
American, and yet again your at it with another Strawman. No one I
know of says we can go around attacking people who annoy us, and as
I've made clear only an attack with B/C weapons would earn a
nuclear response.
We did not start the war with Iraq, Iraq did by attacking Kuwait,
the continued hostilities are because of Iraq's noncompliance with
the terms of surrender.
>Try that for a second. Try to imagine how this kind of American
>militaristic arrogance looks to non-Americans (and if that fails,
>go rent 'Starship Troopers'; the best satire on American
>militarism I've ever seen). You may suddenly realise just why so
>many non-Americans fear and hate you.
Satire????? I must have missed that, as I recall we we're attacked
in that movie, and not just America, as I recall Buenos Aires
(beautiful city!) was attacked without provocation. Besides I own
Starship troopers (the book was better).
I was going to suggest moving this to private mail for the benefit
of the list, but I see by another message that your leaving
anyway...
Brian
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