From: Terry Donaghe (tdonaghe@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Aug 30 1999 - 18:42:39 MDT
--- Joao Pedro Magalhaes <jpnitya@esoterica.pt> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> The reason why you don't want children educated with
> violent principles is
> because they pose a threat to your survival. Sure
> you carry a rifle to
> work, but that's the American/NRA concept. I
> disagree because I don't want
> to live with the fear of being shot. Unless you are
> violent and desire
> conflict, a peaceful co-existence with other humans
> is always preferable.
> If we can make the men and women of tomorrow more
> peaceful, we should try
> and do so even at the expense of privacy. Avoiding
> child abuse is one way
> of achieving this; providing a good education is
> another. In addition, I
> concluded long ago that privacy and freedom are
> incompatible with some
> technologies we defend.
>
> Your way of thinking reminds me of Neville
> Chamberlain and the millions of
> persons that died in WWII.
>
> The discussion of libertarianism is an old one in
> this list.
This list is, to a certain extent about libertarianism. Not
necessarily the politcal movement, but the ideas of personal freedom,
spontaneous order and dynamic societies. Since you seem to reject most
of the Extropian principles, I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to
respond.
I agree that most of us Extropians would favor educating children about
evolution. However, I don't think favoring oppresive governments fit
in well with Extropian beliefs.
> I get the impression that you're just trying to
> quarrel because you
> disagree with me; I'd prefer if you attack my ideas
> and not my knowledge
> because even if I'm not an expert in Satanism you
> know perfectly well what
> I mean. If do you want to know, I'm an atheist and,
> although I'm not an expert, I do understand a bit
> about Satanism.
Actually, I could care less about Satanism. As for your ideas, I'm
more interested in hearing you support them in light of Extropianism,
or at least telling us why you're bothering to post extremely
non-Extropian ideas on our list than I am in attacking them. As
extropians most of us already realize the ideas you have posted are
nonsense.
===
Terry Donaghe: terry@donaghe.com
http://www.donaghe.com
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." --Samuel Adams
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