From: Brian D Williams (talon57@well.com)
Date: Wed Jun 30 1999 - 07:57:20 MDT
From: Elizabeth Childs <echilds@linex.com>
>>Brian D Williams wrote:
>>In a dictatorship they do not share responsibility, in a
>> representational republic, we do.
>>>by that standard, the students who died at Tianamen square would
>>>be as culpable as the soldiers who killed them.
>> ?????
>Imagine an apartment building in Beijing. "Civilians" live there.
>Of those civilians, 15 are former members of the People's
>Liberation Army. 5 have been in the Lao Gai, the Chinese Gulag,
>for opposing the government. 25 silently oppose the current
>regime. 25 vocally support the current regime. 50 have no
>opinion, and try to get by from day to day without getting into
>trouble.
What this have to do with Tianamen?
>Who deserves to die? If it is morally acceptable to bomb civilian
>targets on the premise that those civilians were supporting an
>enemy regime, then it would be moral to blow that building up
>whether it would be useful to a military campaign or not.
>Clearly, that premise is false.
If by civilian targets you mean some sort of apartment building
that is clearly not a valid target. Now lets take a real world
example. After some of the initial bombing in Japan WWII it became
apparent that a large portion of the Japanese military-industrial
complex was cottage based, "a drill press in every home". This was
used to support the massive firebombing raids, which killed many
more than the 2 A-bombs. A famous photo taken after one of these
events showed a large area burnt to the ground, every dozen or so
yards/meters apart there stood a drill press or other machine.
Justified?
>There may be legitimate military reasons to bomb civilian targets,
>even if innocent people die as a result. But the US has a
>sufficiently powerful military to make avoiding blowing up
>civilians a reasonable goal, and I think that's commendable.
We do avoid it, but power stations, water works, bridges, train
tracks, etc are all valid targets.
Brian
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