Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin

From: Harvey Newstrom (newstrom@newstaffinc.com)
Date: Tue Jun 22 1999 - 23:36:37 MDT


On Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:41 am, Hal <hal@finney.org> wrote:
> Harvey Newstrom, <newstrom@newstaffinc.com>, writes:
> > I submit that your pattern-model will not occur without a causal-model
brain
> > actually running the consciousness programming and creating the patterns
for
> > the pattern-model brain.
>
> OK, this is basically a statement that you believe in the causal model
> but not the pattern model. I accept that.

Actually, this says much more than that. I claim that your examples of a
pattern-brain functioning are faulty because it includes causal-brains as
part of the explanation of how the pattern-brain functions. Your own
explanation for how a pattern-brain works includes regular human causal
brains running the experiment. If you could device a theoretical way that a
pattern brain could function on its own without a causal-brain being
involved, it would sure help your claim.

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Harvey Newstrom <mailto://newstrom@newstaffinc.com> <http://newstaffinc.com>
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