From: Max More (max@maxmore.com)
Date: Wed Mar 10 1999 - 12:06:06 MST
At 11:13 AM 3/10/99 -0500, Mike Lorrey wrote:
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>It is an excellent idea. The "Extropic Earth" movement in my opinion,
should work as a synergizer to encourage industry to invest in such
projects, perhaps it could push for such regs, where if, say someone want
to build a dam that threatens a species like the snail darter, they must
construct habitat for the species elsewhere to compensate, just as many
developers do now with wetlands. I know advocating government regs is
anathema to most on the list, but it is how the current system works.
This is not the *only* way the system works and, despite some people's
attempt to paint me as statism-friendly, I would be strongly opposed to
encouraging any such regulations. In fact, I would support lobbying efforts
to abolish the EPA.
One other way that is already being used is best exemplified by the Nature
Conservancy. I was a member some years ago and should look into renewing
(after checking out what they've been up to). In contrast to groups that
look to government to force people to preserve areas of land unchanged, the
Nature Conservancy raises money then *buys* the land and sets it aside so
that it is not built upon. I presume this could sometimes actually bring in
a profit to the NC, if they charged a fee for hikers, limited camping
activities, etc.
The great thing about this approach is that is uses markets, coerces no
one, and reflects people preferences rather than the effectiveness of a
lobbying group in forcing their preferences on others.
It's interesting how preferences vary. Immediately south of where Natasha
and I live (between Marina del Rey and Playa del Rey) is a stretch of
unused land. While Natasha wants to see it remain unused (see likes the
open space), I wouldn't mind seeing it "developed", since I find that area
quite unattractive--no interesting flora or fauna or physical features. But
if money was raised to buy the land (I don't know who owns it now--probably
some part of the state), I could not object. Other areas of unused land
that I find attractive, I would pay money to preserve. For example, if
someone wanted to smooth out the top of Mt. San Jacinto and build a house
or hotel on top, I would quite upset (I *love* to hike up there) and would
pay to keep it as is.
>An idea I had for private species recovery would to possibly make a
lottery system,
> where people can buy as many tickets they want, voting for the species they
> want to see brought back. When some magic number of dollars is reached,
> the ticket selected as the winner decides which species 'wins' the
>dollars for its reintroduction.
I think this kind of idea is exactly the sort of constructive response we
should be making (*in addition to* showing that the environmental problems
are not as bad as many make them out to be, and that in many respects we're
making steady progress). Before you can bring back species, you need a DNA
sample (though eventually, with enough computing power, we should be able
to reconstruct the probably genetic configuration of lost species from
related ones). I haven't heard what they have been up to lately, but
several people have talked about projects to preserve tissue samples of
endangered species. Gregory Benford wrote about the LifeArk Project (or
similar name), and the Foresight Institute talked about the Bioarchive
Project. Anyone know what became of these? Once the ExI web site changes
(explained in the Exponent that I'll be putting up very soon) are underway,
there should be a section for information on projects like these.
Any more ideas for what to call this approach? "High Tech Free Market
Environmentalism" is a mouthful. "Extropic Earth" excludes off-planet
ecologies. Maybe simply "Extropian Environmentalism"?
Max
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Max More, Ph.D.
<max@maxmore.com> or <more@extropy.org>
Implications of Advanced Technologies
President, Extropy Institute: http://www.extropy.org
EXTRO 4 Conference: Biotech Futures. See http://www.extropy.org/ex4/e4main.htm
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