From: Max More (max@maxmore.com)
Date: Fri Mar 05 1999 - 10:01:27 MST
At 03:44 AM 3/5/99 -0600, Eliezer wrote:
>Max More wrote:
>>
>> Still, of all the points you make, this one at least has the merit of
>> hinting at a possible way of improving the definition and Principles. I've
>> been considering a more systematic and hierarchical derivation of the
>> current principles from fewer underlying ideas. However, I feel much
>> reluctance to heading in that direction, since it lends itself to monistic
>> and dogmatic system building.
>
>Listen to those misgivings. A deep philosophical justification of
>Extropy from first principles is a nice thing to publish on your own
>account, but those of us who have our own complex personal philosophies
>would almost certainly disagree; it shouldn't be part of the
>*definition*. Besides, what if you're wrong?
Thanks for your thoughts, Eliezer. As someone with a strong predilection
for organizing ideas, it's tempting to try to derive everything that falls
under "extropy" from a smaller number of "first principles". Overall,
though, I share your misgivings and I'm glad to hear some reinforcement of
these misgivings to counterbalance those who want to make extropianism more
exclusionary.
Perhaps I can have it both ways, as you suggest: See if I can work out a
derivation of extropian ideas from more fundamental ideas, but keep that to
myself, and retain the idea of extropianism as a somewhat looser set of
values. *Let* the ideologues and dogmatists rail against this looseness. I
think it's clear which approach is the more extropian, both in principle
and in result.
Max
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Max More, Ph.D.
<max@maxmore.com> or <more@extropy.org>
Implications of Advanced Technologies
President, Extropy Institute: http://www.extropy.org
EXTRO 4 Conference: Biotech Futures. See http://www.extropy.org/ex4/e4main.htm
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