From: J. R. Molloy (jr@shasta.com)
Date: Sat Feb 13 1999 - 12:27:13 MST
Tim Bates has asked,
>Just for a laugh - what happens if you terminate yourself and you are a
>simulation? Can you? Do they Reboot you? Do you know?
A simulation that terminates itself (assuming it does so autonomously)
requires a Free Will mechanism. (See last post in the Free Will thread).
Obviously, having terminated itself, the simulation can _not_ then discover
anything further concerning the nature of its own simulated status.
People can terminate themselves, not because they rise above the complexity
level of simulations (simulations may also self-terminate, depending on
whether their programs allow this feature), but because they have planning
agents in the brain which allow them to carry out such a plan.
If humans exist as simulations projected by the intricate complexities
inherent in genetic algorithms, quantum physics, and biological evolution (a
holographic paradigm), then certainly these complexities might Reboot them.
The probability that existence Reboots or resurrects an adult consciousness
depends on the complexity of the consciousness in question, and on whether
sufficient resources exist for this project.
If, in contrast to resurrecting a personalized consciousness (i.e., a
specific identifiable personality), the project involves reconstituting a
pure consciousness, meaning a consciousness without content, or a so-called
Buddha consciousness, then of course existence (by "existence" I mean all
and everything that exists -- which Frieden's information-based methods
might find contains information too great to specify in a differential
equation) can produce them by the billions.
The unique and individualized personality generated by the body and brain
exists as a simulation, as you have conjectured, and as some others have
posited. If it terminates itself (and people do commit suicide sometimes),
"they" (genetic algorithms, biological evolution, etc.) may Reboot it, but
this would involve rebooting the entire holographic universe from which it
derived, which seems like an awful lot of trouble just to recapture a single
personality.
Consequently, the only eternally recurring consciousness that populates
existence in significant numbers has no content, no individualized
personality, no unique identity. It rather resembles a general purpose
computer. I predict that the selfish notion of extending one's own identity
eternally will succumb to the more powerful realization that pure
consciousness has its own reasons for emerging.
But just for a laugh,
A zenji was asked by the Emperor of Japan, "What is hell and what is
heaven?"
The zenji looked at the Emperor and said, "You son-of-a-bitch! Have you
looked at your face in the mirror lately? I have never seen such a
dirty-looking fellow before!"
The Emperor became enraged! He had not expected such a thing from such a
saint.
The Emperor pulled his sword out of its sheath. He was going to cut off the
head of the zenji. As the sword came close to the zenji's neck, he said,
"Wait! You are entering hell. This is the gate to hell."
Catching himself in the middle of his sword-thrust, the emperor
understood -- "True!" He threw the sword away, fell at the feet of the
zenji, and the zenji laughed and said, "This is the way to heaven! You have
already experienced both within a single moment. The distance between the
two is not much."
========
Why don't Communists believe in reincarnation?
Well, look at it this way: Who would want to come back to life as a
Communist?
Surmano explains to the rabbi the theory of reincarnation: "Let's say, your
holiness, that you die tomorrow. A flower blooms on your grave after a few
days. A cow comes and eats the flower. The next morning the cow has a good
shit. I go for a walk, see the shit and say, 'Ah, your holiness, you haven't
changed a bit?'"
--J. R.
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