From: Ian Goddard (Ian@Goddard.net)
Date: Thu Jan 21 1999 - 00:36:24 MST
At 01:46 PM 1/20/99 EST, T.0. Morrow wrote:
>The issue with regard to collective entities made up of humans is not whether
>they exist in some sense. The question is whether they have sufficient
>coherence to entertain cognitive states. Perhaps it makes sense to say of
>some small and purely voluntaristic organizations, such as partnerships or
>clubs, that they think, believe, and act (though I think even that usage goes
>too far). But whole societies fail utterly to behave like individuals.
IAN: The initial point was that a collective
is not an entity as in a "thing," if it's a
matter of it being a conscious being, that
ventures into the deep. Life per se tends
to display consciousness if we correlate
consciousness with learning. The process
of evolution is a learning process, but
exactly who is learning seems to me to
be the same question "exactly who am I?"
In short, assuming that the mind houses
a spirit is the same as assuming a group
houses a spirit, and yet assuming that a
mind houses a spirit proves very practical.
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