Re: Arguments from Nonexistence. Was: Extropians and animal rights

From: Samael (Samael@dial.pipex.com)
Date: Thu Jan 14 1999 - 09:59:54 MST


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael S. Lorrey <retroman@together.net>
To: extropians@extropy.com <extropians@extropy.com>
Date: 14 January 1999 16:57
Subject: Re: Arguments from Nonexistence. Was: Extropians and animal rights

>Samael wrote:
>
>> Most people I know eat meat (my Girlfriend doesn't, but apart from that I
>> think everyone know does), and all of them are liberal (well, certianly
by
>> your definition - all fo them are in favour of government, anyway).
>
>Yes, another example is the anti-hunting, pro-meat eating hypocracy. I have
much
>more respect for vegetarians than for such hyporites....

Who's anti-hunting? I'm not. Hunting has been shown to be one of the more
efficient, pain-free methods of population control for some animals. I'm
against torture, not hunting.

>I'm also pro-choice, not because I don't think that the fetus is a living
>creature, I think it is, but by all international norms, a human being must
be a
>citizen of either a country or a visitor from a UN Human Rights Treaty
signatory
>country, or from a country has diplomatic relations with the country we are
>talking about to be considered to have rights.

So now rights have to be conferred by the UN or by a country???? Aren't you
supposed to be a libertarian?

Samael



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