From: Robin Hanson (hanson@econ.berkeley.edu)
Date: Wed Jan 13 1999 - 15:34:17 MST
Dale C wrote:
>It cannot be emphasized enough that an entity that never exists does not
>"miss" the life it hasn't attained, and that taking its fictional
>"desires" into account when making moral calculations seems to
>overcomplicate an already breathtakingly complicated business.
I don't see that introducing this specific consideration makes the difference
between complex but manageable calculations and unmanageable calculations.
So I don't see why we should reject this consideration on such grounds.
Regarding the fictionality of desires, consider the view that me-today
and me-tommorow are two different but closely related creatures. If you
suddenly and without warning killed me, you might argue that me-tommorow
became a fictional creature whose desire to live is irrelevant. And you
didn't hurt me-today, except via his altruism toward me-tommorow.
>The rhetoric here is interesting, painting animal rights folks and vegetarians
>as chauvinists stamping out a way of life they find distasteful, rather
>than as people seeking to protect sentient beings from unecessary
>suffering.
I argued that if farmers anticipate your choice of meat vs. veggies,
you don't get to choose between "suffering sentient being" vs.
"not suffering sentient being." What you choose between instead
is "suffering sentient being" vs. "non-sentient veggies."
Robin Hanson
hanson@econ.berkeley.edu http://hanson.berkeley.edu/
RWJF Health Policy Scholar FAX: 510-643-8614
140 Warren Hall, UC Berkeley, CA 94720-7360 510-643-1884
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